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Old 05-14-2008, 10:29 AM   #81
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No, I'm simply noting that your repeated assertion that Jesus does not exist is certainly and clearly a belief.
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:31 AM   #82
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You are the one trying to go around my NON-BELIEF.
No, I'm simply noting that your repeated assertion that Jesus does not exist is certainly and clearly a belief.



Yes. Do you not understand that an assertion that Jesus did not exist goes beyond a mere "lack of belief"?

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Yet, you simply continue with your strawman.
It certainly is not a strawman because your repeated assertions of your belief that Jesus did not exist are readily available to any search of your posts.

Each and every time you have made that assertion, you have been stating your belief about Jesus.
My BELIEF about Jesus is NOTHING.

HJers have BELIEF about Jesus, some believe he was a man and not a God, some Christians BELIEVE Jesus was God and man.

I BELIEVE NOTHING about Jesus.

Jesus was NOTHING. I cannot BELIEVE anything about him.
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:49 AM   #83
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You are the one trying to go around my NON-BELIEF.
Do you not understand that an assertion that Jesus did not exist goes beyond a mere "lack of belief"?
If Obssession saw herself as mere Option she would find there is no point to herself at all.

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Old 05-14-2008, 01:47 PM   #84
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Jesus was NOTHING. I cannot BELIEVE anything about him.
I'm glad to hear you will no longer assert that Jesus did not exist. :thumbs:
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:09 PM   #85
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Jesus was NOTHING. I cannot BELIEVE anything about him.
I'm glad to hear you will no longer assert that Jesus did not exist. :thumbs:
Asserting that Jesus was nothing is asserting something about him.
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:08 AM   #86
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I'm glad to hear you will no longer assert that Jesus did not exist. :thumbs:
Asserting that Jesus was nothing is asserting something about him.
Asserting that nothing was nothing is asserting nothing about nothing.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:28 AM   #87
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No, asserting that nothing is nothing is asserting something about nothing.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:36 AM   #88
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Look, can we just agree on this basic point: that believing Jesus did not exist is more substantive, as a position it involves more commitment, than having absolutely no opinion on whether he existed.
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Look, can we just agree on this basic point: that believing Jesus did not exist is more substantive, as a position it involves more commitment, than having absolutely no opinion on whether he existed.
Except aa denies this.
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Look, can we just agree on this basic point: that believing Jesus did not exist is more substantive, as a position it involves more commitment, than having absolutely no opinion on whether he existed.

A thing that does not exist is NOTHING.

If JESUS did not exist, JESUS is NOTHING.

There is just NOTHING to believe, substantially.
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