Writer@Large

I don't mean this to sound rude, but ...

It seems to me that you're quibbling over semantics in order to make death less scary for yourself. To insist that it is "eternal, dreamless sleep" implies that your consciousness somehow survives after death; but it doesn't. We cease to be after death. The brain rots. If you prefer 'eternal dreamless sleep' to 'eternal nonexistance,' more power to you. In either instance, once you die, that's it. it's over. You'll never be aware--hell, you'll never be--again. But as it stands you're quibbling, and your ho-ho superior "I know I'm right" just makes you sound desperate to avoid facing the cold, black truth.

--W@L

SLUGFly

Writer@large... you stole the words from my mouth (er... fingers...) but I'll post what I had intended before I saw your post.

Silly semantics... read the point not the definitions

Obey_Matthew_6_6

Perhaps it's flame-baiting,
maybe atheist-hating,
but dead is dead.
Close the thread.

LSHAFC2004

Tell me any difference, you felt or knew between pre-birth and dreamless sleep last night. Apart from the fact you were in bed. Consious wise, what difference was there? I can see none. Consious wise they are EXACTLY the same to the indivdual. Like I stated , I will defend my postion as I know I'm right. You cannot point out a single secound before your birth, you cannot point out a single secound in dreamless sleep.(Theres no point argueing that sometimes you can because if you could then every sleep would seem like 8 hours. Instead it just seems like 30 secounds or so, so any arguement saying you can is irrelevent.)

Death is an eternal, peaceful, dreamless sleep.

Ovazor

Even when deep, dreamless sleep you will become aware of say, loud noises, which wake you up, meaning that in deep sleep there must still be some small amount of consciousness. When you're dead there's none.

BTW, defending your position means actually preseting arguments supporting it, not going "I know I'm right"

And it's spelled "conscious" and "consciousness".

Prester John

I call foul play, the initial post asked for comments on a quote, these were given and i am in agreement with the apparent majoritory view that the thread poster ignored pertinent parts of the quote.
The initial poster has now imposed his own interpretation of death on the quote to try and make the point that the quoted comment was wrong.

is just fine within the athiest viewpoint.

LSHAFC2004

The statement is right by anology, but I have turned death into a dreamless sleep or coma. They are all indistguishable from each other.

Writer@Large

:banghead:

Thank you for ignoring my point ... and by doing so, actually proving it. You're repeating yourself over and over ... "It's like peaceful sleep ... I'm right! ... It's like peaceful sleep ... I'm right!" Because repetition and pig-headedness are such debate winners .

So you would agree that you're quibbling about semantics? And that "eternal nonexistance" and "eternal dreamless sleep" are no different?

Whatever helps you sleep your normal, dream-filled sleep at night.

--W@L

Jakanapes

Well, except for the brainwave readings, of course.

Even a deeply asleep person in a dreamless state has delta waves. Dead folk have none...

LSHAFC2004

[QUOTE]Yes, obviously. It is far more humainst though to say eternal timeless peaceful dreamless sleep. Just like the sleep before birth. We were sleeping in non-existence and fortuantely we awoke while billions didnt. Life is one long big day with two eternal sleeps eigther side. We dont care about the sleep after the day on a normal day. So we will not care about the eternal sleep at the end of the whole day(life) :snooze:

Kinda comforting really.