Mughal

A Letter From Ex-Muslims To Mankind

Dragon

Too bad most Muslims probably don't have access to the internet, and even if they do they will most likely never see that site.

Philippe*

From an open-minded point of view, I think even if Muhammad was a messenger of something "higher" and gave perhaps a higher sense of life to some barbarians, it seems all outdated today. I think there is a cultural clash, since Islam is not only a religion but has a whole political agenda, a bit utopian : to build the Oumma where all are equal muslims, there is a kind of romantic nostalgia from the good old time when the Prophet went on djihad to take over the world the saber in one hand, the Quran in the other one (on a fairy desert background).

I guess it requires a lot of courage, you know what they are capable of.

Philippe

Hedshaker

I think Islam is going through its 'dark ages' as Xianity did centuries ago (still is in some quarters). Trouble is, the weapons and explosive technology today is so powerful compared to the crossbows and swords available a few hundred years ago. It's scary. The notion of religious fanaticism and the damage it can evidently cause in this day and age is very scary. I just want to scream at these people "there is no God, no afterlife, you're forfitting your only life and that of others for nothing!!!!"

But I fear it's a waste of time, as it would have been a waste of time telling the Christian witch hunters and the crusaders and inquisitors the folly of their ways. Such is the power of religeous brainwashing.

But we should never stop screaming to them... never! Hopefully they will wake up before it's too late.

Orbit

reprise

I think that just as we accept that little we as atheists say to Christian fundamentalists is likely to make them question their doctrine or the actions of their Church, little which is said to Muslim fundamentalists is going to have an impact either.

I'm not sure to what extent people outside of Australia have seen the responses of Muslim nations throughout the world to the Jakarta bombing, but it isn't just the nations which practise moderate forms of Islam which have come out and publicly condemned that act as unIslamic - even Iran has made such a condemnation.

I'm not sure that people are questioning the Quran per se, but they are definitely questioning the actions on those who claim to act on behalf of Islam - and that is a very good start.

Clivedurdle

From his personal testimony on that site.

He is a very brave guy!

Why I left Islam

Philippe*

...and in his text, I have noted this lovely piece of anthology :

Elsewhere we read:
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 260:

Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

Philippe

hinduwoman

Technically speaking the ex-muslim is wrong. It is not Koran or Hadis that is dangerous --- it is blind uncritical acceptance of it. Radical reinterpretation is simply not allowed, nor is the population encouraged to treat it as something not important.

Look at Scandanavian countries. Religion is something happily ingonred though theya re nominally good Christians. I read that in Denmark a priest declared God is not the creator of universe and 75% of Danes still want him to be a priest!!

Keep Muhammad in the closet, dust him out on ceremonial occasion and then put him back into the closet when it comes to everyday life. No problem! :thumbs:

Mughal

Dear hinduwoman,

I am of the view that the quran and the hadith are dangerous as well as uncritical acceptance of them by muslims. They are dangerous because they contain dangerous information or harmful teachings.

Anything that has the potential to be dangerous or used dangerously can be clasified as dangerous eg knife and electricity etc. This is why we always keep knives out of kids reach and tell them they are dangerous and put up danger signs for warning and place guards around electrical installations etc etc.

The quran and hadith are yet more dangerous than that because we tell little kids they are good and if you do what these books say you are a good person.

Regards and all the best.

Syed

Thanks Mughal , I know you are concerned that Islam is the fastest rising
religion in the world. Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson rightly says, "People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already, "it fell the day MUHAMMAD was born".

THOUSANDS OF BRITISH EMBRACE ISLAM
RADIANCE VIEWSWEEKLY 7-13 March 2004 | 12 March 2004

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