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Pick up Friedman's "Who wrote the Bible" and read the introduction. There he lays out the development that started in the 11th century and produced the DH in the 19th century.
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If so, pardon me while I fall out my chair laughing. I'll explain this in my next response to Dean after I recover. ************************************ If this is not what you are saying, then SAY what you are saying. Don't play coy games with me like Lucretius and Constant Mews who are bluffing about some link they supposedly have and I'm supposedly too stupid to find. Just state your view clearly like an honest truth seeker should. |
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As we have been talking about the two accounts of Noah's flood, here they are side by side. Perhaps someone might know how either tablet theories or oral traditions can account for these two distinct accounts that have been threaded together. (I have omitted some of the material, but if anyone thinks that any omission compromises the two separate accounts, please feel free to explain.)
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------------------------------------|---------------------------------- | 6:9b | 6:8 Noah was a just man and perfect in | But Noah found grace in the his generations, and Noah walked | eyes of the LORD. with God. | 5 And God saw that the 11 The earth also was corrupt | wickedness of man was great before God, and the earth was | in the earth, and that filled with violence. | every imagination of the 12 And God looked upon the earth, | thoughts of his heart was and, behold, it was corrupt; for | only evil continually. all flesh had corrupted his way | 6 And it repented the LORD upon the earth. | that he had made man on the | earth, and it grieved him | at his heart. 13 ¶ And God said unto Noah, The | 7 And the LORD said, I will end of all flesh is come before | destroy man whom I have me; for the earth is filled with | created from the face of the violence through them; and, | earth; both man, and beast, behold, I will destroy them with | and the creeping thing, and the earth. | the fowls of the air; for it | repenteth me that I have | made them. ------------------------------------|---------------------------------- | 6:18b | 7:1 | And the LORD said unto Noah, and thou shalt come into the ark, | Come thou and all thy house thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, | into the ark; and thy sons' wives with thee. | | for thee have I seen righteous | before me in this generation. | | 2 Of every clean beast thou | shalt take to thee by sevens, | the male and his female: | 19 And of every living thing of | and of beasts that are not all flesh, two of every sort | clean by two, the male and his shalt thou bring into the ark, to | female. keep them alive with thee; they | shall be male and female. | 20 Of fowls after their kind, and | 3 Of fowls also of the air by | sevens, the male and the of cattle after their kind, of | female; every creeping thing of the earth | after his kind, two of every sort | shall come unto thee, | to keep them alive. | to keep seed alive upon the | face of all the earth. | 22 Thus did Noah; according to | 5 And Noah did according unto all that God commanded him, so | all that the LORD commanded did he. | him. ------------------------------------|---------------------------------- | 7:11 | In the six hundredth year of | 6 And Noah was six hundred Noah's life, in the second month, | years old the seventeenth day of the month, | the same day were all the | fountains of the great deep | when the flood of waters was broken up, and the windows of | upon the earth. heaven were opened. | 12 And the rain was upon the | earth forty days and forty | nights. | 13 In the selfsame day entered | Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and | 7 And Noah went in, and his Japheth, the sons of Noah, and | sons, and his wife, and his Noah's wife, and the three wives | sons' wives with him, into the of his sons with them, into the | ark, ark; | ------------------------------------|---------------------------------- | 21 ¶ And all flesh died that | 22 All in whose nostrils was moved upon the earth, | the breath of life, of all | that was in the dry land, | died. both of fowl, and of cattle, and | 23 And every living substance of beast, and of every creeping | was destroyed which was upon thing that creepeth upon the | the face of the ground, both earth, and every man: | man, and cattle, and the | creeping things, and the fowl | of the heaven; and they were | destroyed from the earth: | and Noah only remained alive, | and they that were with him in | the ark. ------------------------------------|---------------------------------- | 8:6 | 24 And the waters prevailed And it came to pass at the end | upon the earth an hundred and of forty days, | fifty days. | 8:1 And God remembered Noah,.. | 2 The fountains also of the | deep and the windows of heaven | were stopped, and the rain from | heaven was restrained; | 3 And the waters returned from | off the earth continually: and | after the end of the hundred | and fifty days the waters were | abated. that Noah opened the window of | the ark which he had made: | | 8:7 8 And he sent forth a dove from | And he sent forth a raven, him, to see if the waters were | which went forth to and fro, abated from off the face of the | until the waters were dried up ground; | from off the earth. 9 But the dove found no rest for | the sole of her foot,.. | ------------------------------------|---------------------------------- | 13 ¶ And it came to pass in the | six hundredth and first year, in | the first month, the first day of | the month, the waters were dried | up from off the earth: | 8:13b | and Noah removed the covering 14 And in the second month, on | of the ark, and looked, and, the seven and twentieth day of | behold, the face of the ground the month, was the earth dried. | was dry. ------------------------------------|---------------------------------- spin |
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dave you couldn't even google a direct reference to Herodotus without specific guided assistance by others.
Don't try to play all high and mighty with your google skills after that fiasco! And you know what? "Just state your view clearly like an honest truth seeker would." How about you start? You've demonstrated you don't even know the meanings of the words you use. You've demonstrated that you wouldn't recognized clarity if it had a death grip on either of your brain cells. Who the heck are you to present yourself as a 'truth seeker', when we've never yet seen an honest search for truth out of any of your thousands of posts on this and your prior two forums? Pfeh. Your behavior is beneath contempt. no hugs for thugs, Shirley Knott |
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