Doug Shaver

The average creationist asserts that evolution is inexplicable. As in their case, your failure to understand how it could have happened does not make it inexplicable.

aa5874

And you have failed to show that it is not inexplicable.

Your post is without logic.

What creationists think about evolution has no direct relation to how a mortal man was eventually worshipped as God by people who refused to worship mortal men as Gods.

It is inexplicable that a man, circumcised on the eight day, who followed Jewish practises could have been worshipped as God, and have the ability to forgive sin.

bacht

There are at least two problems:

If Jesus was the messiah, why was he so different from the models in Jewish lit (Daniel, Enoch etc)?
If God had a son who lived and died on earth, does this remain Judaism as practiced since the Babylonian exile, or some new hybrid with paganism?

aa5874

And there is Simon bar Kokchba, he was called a Messiah, yet there is no indication that he was worshipped as a God, or had the power to forgive sin.

A Messiah was expected to kill Romans or whoever had them under oppression, to deliver the Jews from the idolaters, and to give the Jews control of their terrotory.

No Robots

What is so inexplicable? It was Paul, influenced by Hellenism, who opened the way to deifying Christ.

No Robots

He simply wasn't what anyone had expected or wanted in a Messiah. He was, from a material/political point of view, far less than a Messiah. However, from a spiritual/mystical point of view, he was far more.

aa5874

Which Paul? The Saul/Paul in Acts, the Paul in Romans, or the Paul in Timothy?

By the way, the church writers did not know the difference or wanted their readers to believe or think that all the letter writers were the same person.

And in the letters with the name Paul, the writer claimed that he was the last to see Jesus, that there were apostles bere him, that there were converts before him, and he persecuted the church.

There is no information to support your claim that a letter writer called Paul opened the way to deifying Christ, not even the letter writer himself made such claim.

Doug Shaver

Countless scholars with no commitment to Christian dogma have explained how it could have happened. Therefore, it is not inexplicable.

Whether you or I agree with any of the explanations is irrelevant.

aa5874

Again, your post is void of logic. If I disagree with the explantions, it is obvious that I am not satisfied, and therefore still think it is inexplicable.

And, you have not produce one single valid explanation of how a man was eventually worshipped as a God by people who do not worship mere mortals as Gods.

Now, countless people think it is inexplicable.

bacht

Or, the author of Mark thought that Jewish messianism was foolish, and he wanted to satirize the whole idea. Later readers didn't get it, and took him seriously.