Lógos Sokratikós

Well, how many people without the demonstration have to die and go to hell before Jehovah thinks it's time? How some people can think such a deal may be fair, is a challenge to psychiatric science.

sugarhitman

I'm going to let Peter answer this one:

"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousands years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his propmise, as some men count slackness; but longsuffering to usward, AND NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH, BUT THAT ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE." II Peter 3:8-9


Why thank you Peter!

WVIncagold

Again skeptics=2000+ being correct
Doomsayers= 0

the record speaks for itself Peter.

Lógos Sokratikós

But if they don't believe due to lack of the stuff that would make them believe, they perish. Thank you Peter, for pointing out the absurdity.

Toto

Hey wait a minute. Skeptics point out a particulary embarrassing part of the Holy Word, and we can't get a good Christian in here to say that it was metaphor, or overridden by Jesus sacrifice or Paul's reinterpretation, or some other lame excuse? We only have Christians who seem to support stoning rebellious kids?

bacht

How about this:

Peter is the "rock" foundation of the church
Rebellious sons are the Jews
Therefore throwing Peter at Jews is Jesus' will (?)

sorry, I'm out of practice with this stuff :Cheeky:

Lógos Sokratikós

LOL.
Silly, but LOL.

Sheshbazzar

I am fully confident that eternity did not begin, as it were, only yesterday,
ten thousands of years, less enduring than a single spark of small campfire,
upon the face of that great vastness of all of eternity.
The superstitions, and religious fables of men, shall not stand the test of time.
A trite and foolish claim made just yesterday, is already fading, and passing away.
I rejoice that none will regard this stupidity one hundred million years from now.

spin

Sure, just as long as you use the fuller version as modified above to include the stubborn and rebellious son!


spin

storytime

Sugar, you should consider reading the bible without including yourself in the story. That's the number one problem with Christians I think, they just can't accept the bible story as only a Jewish legend. You try to interpret things Jewish that doesn't fit the then Jewish way of thinking.

If nations adopted the teachings of Jesus, they'd become Jewish nations. You fail to consider that Jesus was Jewish and think him to be a godman for all people. He was not. The arguments Jesus presented was in debate with his own people and leaders. Jesus didn't go into Rome and declare that Roman citizens should follow him. He did, however, say that he was not sent to condemn the world. His sole purpose was to save the lost sheep in the house of Israel. "I am sent to none but the lost sheep in the house of Israel." As a rabbi and teacher, he taught a doctrine diferent than the Pharisees and Sadducees. He made a distinction of his doctrine from theirs when he spoke to them and said: "It is written in your law.." and he went on to call the Pharisees children of the devil. Jesus was insulting and offensive to the Pharisees whom he acknowledged as being children of Abraham, and therein under the covenant of Abraham. The Pharisees were Jews and Jesus was a Jew who evidently disagreed with them on points of doctrine. And.. none of those things had anything to do with Gentiles or Rome or Egypt or any other people.