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Old 10-07-2012, 09:24 AM   #211
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There were hundreds of early Christian texts.
Isn't it strange, then, that they didn't make it into anyone's canon.
Not really. Once the catholic orthodoxy
Once the imperial lackeys had got their orders from on high to make a religion that could be called Christianity, but actually retain the essential features of existing Roman popular religions, that opposed Christianity, they had a problem, that only force majeure could answer. They could mimic Paul's style in their letters and other written works, but they could not get them accepted by the people who mattered; the real church. So the NT canon has never been seriously disputed, despite the existence of these many works of venerated men. The many supposedly Protestant denominations disagree about everything imaginable, except that canon.
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The many supposedly Protestant denominations disagree about everything imaginable, except that canon.
"Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and a house divided against itself will fall."

Ergo, the days of protestantism are numbered, doomed to Kaput!
That old snake-on-a-stick idol, and all that have received the 'mark' of its name and have bowed down to it and served it, shall be cast into the fiery Pit along with it, and into smoke they shall all consume away, and shall be no more.
For yet a little while and the wicked with their Nehushtan stick shall be no more;
Indeed, you will look carefully for its place and for its people,
But it shall be as though they had never been.
The memory of them is to be evermore cut of from the earth.

And all in heaven and earth shall sing with one voice at the passing of the Serpent, the WHORE, and all the DAUGHTERS of her fornications; 'Hallelu-Yah!'
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Who were the keepers of these assorted texts over the centuries? Was it the Vatican for the last 1000 years? Was it the church in Constantinople? Who had their hands on these texts, texts that repeatedly identify what should have been known to the great masses of clergy and believers for at least two centuries??

http://www.bible-researcher.com/canon8.html
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Who were the keepers of these assorted texts over the centuries? Was it the Vatican for the last 1000 years? Was it the church in Constantinople? Who had their hands on these texts, texts that repeatedly identify what should have been known to the great masses of clergy and believers for at least two centuries??

http://www.bible-researcher.com/canon8.html
It was obviously someone in a pointy hat.
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Regardless......the point is the significance of all those apologists all claiming a canon of unknown origin that was allegedly known for two centuries or more and would have been common knowledge among the literate audience they were addressing, and which would have included the Old Testament.
And I would like to know who held on to these texts of these apologists over the centuries, and were there multiple manuscripts.
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Regardless......the point is the significance of all those apologists all claiming a canon of unknown origin that was allegedly known for two centuries or more and would have been common knowledge among the literate audience they were addressing, and which would have included the Old Testament.
And I would like to know who held on to these texts of these apologists over the centuries, and were there multiple manuscripts.
The answer to that will never be reached if one forever fails to acknowledge the existence of people who actually believed the Bible.
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Regardless......the point is the significance of all those apologists all claiming a canon of unknown origin that was allegedly known for two centuries or more and would have been common knowledge among the literate audience they were addressing, and which would have included the Old Testament.
And I would like to know who held on to these texts of these apologists over the centuries, and were there multiple manuscripts.
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The judge had no choice but to return to court with this report: "I came to Fuente Ovejuna, your Majesties, as you ordered, and set about my investigations. But I have not one word of proof. The whole village behaved in a most stubborn manner. Each and every one of them answered my questions as to-- [ who held on to these texts] -- by saying,--[ ‘ the believers did it’]-- I can assure you, my lord, that I exercised all the vigor the law allows me, but neither threats, pain nor promises had any success. “

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When I am asking a technical question I just need technical responses if possible.
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When I am asking a technical question I just need technical responses if possible.
But you ignore technical responses. You respond only to fantasy.

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When I am asking a technical question I just need technical responses if possible.
It is not a ‘technical question’.

To accept or not to accept --that is the question:
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