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These portions of Jesus the Christ are mythological: 1. The virgin birth. 2. The temptation. 3. The miracles performed by Jesus the Christ. 4. The transfiguration. 5. The resurrection. 6. The ascension. Jesus the Christ is a myth of massive proportions, and perhaps it is prudent, based on your thinking, to consider the gods and goddesses of Greek mythology, as part myth and part real. |
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I have asked spin for a chronology as to when he thinks
the tribe of christians appeared on the planet. Do I have the right to ask spin for the basis of his arguments as they refer to chronology in this forum? Conversely, if others in discussion are aware that spin for example prefers the traditional chronology (eg: there must have been some "tribe of christians in the first century"), then may I be informed. Perhaps BC&H pundits dont even have to have a chronology? After all, they have the "literature tradition" to play with. They either reject the opportunity of commenting on one of the world's foremost 20th century ancient historians' assessment of christianity in the 4th century, or totally misunderstand Momigliano's commentary and thrust. Other posters in this forum should be aware that there is a vast difference between the study of "ancient history" and "biblical history", and this difference has been in the above sentence quite encapsulated. |
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In fact this all thread is quite funny. And I would like to thank very much aa5784 or it. Before I was thinking that Yeshua might have existed or that he might not have existed, there is no solid proof either way (that is why it is a never ending question). Also, and I am still thinking it: his existence or non-existence is not important. (Why is it so important for some people - they sure have an agenda...) But after reading more and more, now I am rather thinking that there was a man who was crucified by Pontius Pilatus. Strangely that useful information pointing to the crucified is never as far as I can see discussed here. I understand why the xians don't want to discuss it, it is quite embarassing. But infidels My only explanation is that some are understanding the bible in the same way as the xians, but reversed. Miracles are real on one side... miracles are fiction on the other side. What a poor understanding.
There is evidence that here nobody understands the meaning of "walking on the sea". Hence damnat quia non intelligat. |
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Now, when was that Arian doctrine developed, in the 2nd, 3rd or fourth century? I am of the opinion that there were many doctrines or concepts of the Christ long before Eusebius. |
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And perhaps, upon reflection, you should only write in that language. |
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This is what is written in Romans1:16, "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek". But the purported author of Romans, Paul, is the subject of embarassment, since, it is now believed that the Pauline Epistles are forgeries, at least parts of them. |
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Romans, I & II Corinthians, Galatians, I Thessalonians, Philemon, and Philippians respectively. |
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