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mosesnoses · 10-17-2005, 10:04 AM

I would encourage everyone to visit emerginglife.org and to look at their Science area. They have plenty of stuff from AIG posted there and lots of anti-evolutionary posts. The reason I went there in the first place was that they had posted an AIG rebuttal of a LTE I wrote in the Cincinnati Enquirer. When I joined and began posting some contrary material rebutting many of the misrepresentations, my posts began to be censored and threads I started were locked. Finally, they threw me off entirely. The site admin is a real jerk, not giving me any opportunity to defend myself. Check it out!

Shpongle · 10-17-2005, 10:20 AM

This thread scares me. This is stuff supposedly written by a person in the process of getting a biology degree:

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Mutations are often either harmful or they are not even observed in the organism. Even with all of the different mutations that have been observed, none of them have made any steps in increasing an organisms complexity nor have they made any steps in developing brand new species, period.

NonHomogenized · 10-17-2005, 10:51 AM

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Mutations are often either harmful or they are not even observed in the organism. Even with all of the different mutations that have been observed, none of them have made any steps in increasing an organisms complexity nor have they made any steps in developing brand new species, period.

[creationist] Well, of course! Any non-harmful mutation that increases the genomic size is just an extra copy of existing information, therefore, no new information! And any mutation which changes existing information causes the organism to lose information. So, obviously, mutations cannot increase the complexity of an organism.[/creationist]

And never you mind what happens when a sequence of DNA gets duplicated, THEN modified...

SwoleMan · 10-17-2005, 10:57 AM

The site admin. is obviously both a coward and an idiot.

Sven · 10-17-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by stupid creationist

Mutations are often either harmful or they are not even observed in the organism. Even with all of the different mutations that have been observed, none of them have made any steps in increasing an organisms complexity nor have they made any steps in developing brand new species, period.

Am I right in assuming that "brand new species" really means "kind"?

Wyz_sub10 · 10-17-2005, 11:48 AM

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Mutations are often either harmful or they are not even observed in the organism.

Um....well, which is it? It sounds like he's saying, "Mutations don't happen. Besides, they're bad." That makes no fucking sense.

LambdaCalculator · 10-17-2005, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Creationist

Mutations are often either harmful or they are not even observed in the organism. Even with all of the different mutations that have been observed, none of them have made any steps in increasing an organisms complexity nor have they made any steps in developing brand new species, period.

I'm still waiting for someone to define "complexity". As someone with an independent interest in Bioinformatics it would greatly help.

S2Focus · 10-17-2005, 12:24 PM

Posted to emerginglife.org at 12:18 PDT today (11:18 according to emerginglife.org's timestamp).
URL: http://www.emerginglife.org/chat/vie...hp?p=9718#9718 . (We'll see how long it stays up.... heh, heh... :devil3: )

Here in San Diego, we have a big concentration of world-class bioscience research institutions. Perhaps the most prestigious is the Salk Institute (founded by Nobel Laureate Jonas Salk, developer of the polio vaccine). The Salk Institute currently has several Nobel prize-winners on its staff, and in terms of scientific impact (#citations per paper published), the Institute has been the number one bioscience research institution in the world for most of the past decade. (See http://www.salk.edu/news/releases/details.php?id=60 for details).

The reason that I mention the Salk institute is that as one of the world's leading research institutions, with world-class scientists performing bioscience research at the very "cutting edge", it is the first place one should look to find out the latest about research into new theories such as Intelligent Design.

The Salk Institute web-site is http://www.salk.edu. It contains a wealth of information about exciting new research initiatives the Salk Institute is pursuing. To make things more convenient, the Salk folks have provided a "search" button at the top-center of the home-page.

To get the latest dirt on how Intelligent Design is challenging the evolution paradigm, all you have to do is invoke a search on the phrase "intelligent design" (include the quotation marks in the search). Then, as a comparison, do a search on the keyword "evolution".

The search results will give you a very good indication of the magnitude of challenge that Intelligent Design is posing to the reigning evolutionary views at one of the world's finest research institutions. For those of you who belong to a church, you'll definitely want to share the exciting search results with members of your congregation.

judanne · 10-17-2005, 01:55 PM

Good one S2Focus! Still posted as of 4:54. Either they're a little slow on the uptake or they don't actually bother to check in-thread links. :rolling:

youngalexander · 10-17-2005, 02:11 PM

The Science of Faith!?

Well, at least it makes a change from the common 'faith in science' baloney.

10-17-2005, 10:04 AM	#1
mosesnoses Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 179	emerginglife.org censors pro evolution posts I would encourage everyone to visit emerginglife.org and to look at their Science area. They have plenty of stuff from AIG posted there and lots of anti-evolutionary posts. The reason I went there in the first place was that they had posted an AIG rebuttal of a LTE I wrote in the Cincinnati Enquirer. When I joined and began posting some contrary material rebutting many of the misrepresentations, my posts began to be censored and threads I started were locked. Finally, they threw me off entirely. The site admin is a real jerk, not giving me any opportunity to defend myself. Check it out!

10-17-2005, 12:24 PM	#8
S2Focus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 1162 easy freeway minutes from the new ICR in TX Posts: 896	Here's what I posted there, just for fun... Posted to emerginglife.org at 12:18 PDT today (11:18 according to emerginglife.org's timestamp). URL: http://www.emerginglife.org/chat/vie...hp?p=9718#9718 . (We'll see how long it stays up.... heh, heh... :devil3: ) Here in San Diego, we have a big concentration of world-class bioscience research institutions. Perhaps the most prestigious is the Salk Institute (founded by Nobel Laureate Jonas Salk, developer of the polio vaccine). The Salk Institute currently has several Nobel prize-winners on its staff, and in terms of scientific impact (#citations per paper published), the Institute has been the number one bioscience research institution in the world for most of the past decade. (See http://www.salk.edu/news/releases/details.php?id=60 for details). The reason that I mention the Salk institute is that as one of the world's leading research institutions, with world-class scientists performing bioscience research at the very "cutting edge", it is the first place one should look to find out the latest about research into new theories such as Intelligent Design. The Salk Institute web-site is http://www.salk.edu. It contains a wealth of information about exciting new research initiatives the Salk Institute is pursuing. To make things more convenient, the Salk folks have provided a "search" button at the top-center of the home-page. To get the latest dirt on how Intelligent Design is challenging the evolution paradigm, all you have to do is invoke a search on the phrase "intelligent design" (include the quotation marks in the search). Then, as a comparison, do a search on the keyword "evolution". The search results will give you a very good indication of the magnitude of challenge that Intelligent Design is posing to the reigning evolutionary views at one of the world's finest research institutions. For those of you who belong to a church, you'll definitely want to share the exciting search results with members of your congregation.

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SwoleMan Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,190	The site admin. is obviously both a coward and an idiot.

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judanne Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: near Toronto Posts: 1,757	Good one S2Focus! Still posted as of 4:54. Either they're a little slow on the uptake or they don't actually bother to check in-thread links. :rolling:

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youngalexander Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mornington Peninsula Posts: 1,306	The Science of Faith!? Well, at least it makes a change from the common 'faith in science' baloney.

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