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Old 06-06-2004, 07:09 PM   #31
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Why does there need to be? How much evidence is there really for many famous people like Columbus or Napolean? Yet they are accepted as fact by almost everyone.
Magus you would have a point if Jesus were only a historical person. But that is not all that you are talking about when you speak of Jesus. Forget about the paucity of information about Jesus and its dubious origins. Just addressing all the rest of the supernatural mumbo jumbo is enough to dismiss Jesus.

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I only have one reason. I have no need for him.

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More accurately, you don't believe you have any need for him. You could very well find out in the future that you need Him more than anything else.
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He also happens to be the spiritial, non-natural creator of the universe. Have we invented a spiritual detector yet?
Of course not. So based that on that alone the claims should be highly suspect.

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More accurately, you don't believe you have any need for him. You could very well find out in the future that you need Him more than anything else.
People do grow up eventually Magus and leave the thoughts of childhood behind.

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If you don’t think there is sufficient evidence to believe in God, it pretty much follows that you’re not going to believe in the son of God.

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1. I've yet to see any proof that 'God' or 'Christ' exist.
2. See 1
3. See 2

That help?
Have you seen any proof that Napolean existed?
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#1 : there is nothing from which to be redeemed.
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#2 : he didn't satisfy the lineage requirements of HaMashiak
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#3 : it is impossible for the real HaMashiak to be nailed to a tree (ie, he failed)
Says who?
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Have you seen any proof that Napolean existed?
Proof, no, evidence yes. Lots and lots of independent, unbiased evidence. You see, if only believers can see it, it is automatically suspect.

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Easier done than said.

People who tell me about Jesus are:

1. Children who are only parroting what their parents have told them.

2. Former drug/alcohol abusers who have "found" Jesus.

3. Clinicaly insane people who either think they're Jesus or that they actually hear him speaking to them.

These three catagories of people number probably in the millions, can they be wrong?
McDonalds claims over billions served. Is there food good for people?

I don't think so.

One more Those little wafers that are supossed to be Christ taste worse than a McDonalds' burger!
Way to stereotype!
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He also happens to be the spiritial, non-natural creator of the universe.
That has nothing to do with what I said. I don't care if he's the "non-natural creator of the universe" or the all-knowing golden bucket of Italy. God, should he be real, has the ability to communicate with us, yet he refuses to.

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Have we invented a spiritual detector yet?
Many people believe that they have. They usually use them around old mansions and abondoned mental hospitals, though. Oddly enough, those people often find themselves in functioning mental hospitals later in life.
 
 

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