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Old 03-28-2005, 05:21 AM   #11
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I wouldn't care.

But I'd at least like to save some people their time, money and love.
Wouldn't it be great if all the money and effort of keeping the husk going for the last 15 years had been put into neurological research instead?
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I think it's clear that her husband has been wanting her dead for years now.
In your looking into this case, did you ever bother reading the Wolfson report?

And the husband gets nothing out of her dying. He's fighting because she told him she would not want to be kept like this. If his reasons were entirely selfish, all he'd have to do is divorce and no sane person would blame him.

He's been married to a breathing corpse for fifteen years. Ascribing him evil motives borders on the idiotic.
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In your looking into this case, did you ever bother reading the Wolfson report?

And the husband gets nothing out of her dying. He's fighting because she told him she would not want to be kept like this. If his reasons were entirely selfish, all he'd have to do is divorce and no sane person would blame him.

He's been married to a breathing corpse for fifteen years. Ascribing him evil motives borders on the idiotic.
No, actually, it is perfectly reasonable to question the motives of a man who only made his claim that she wants to die 7 years later, AFTER he received the 1.7 million dollar settlement, 700,000 which was supposed to go towards her rehabilitation.

It is also reasonable to want to get to the bottom of the serious allegations from Terri's close friends and family that he was abusive, controlling, and possibly the person who put her into the hospital in the first place. Her medical records show that she had broken bones and signs of strangulation, yet as far as I have heard, there was never an investigation into the intital cause of her 'collapse', and the possibility of foul play. And why he, if he had been trained as a paramedic, didn't know to take her to the hospital immediately, he waited before calling 911, why is that?

No, what I think is idiotic is to ignore everything that goes against the story that he is just doing what Terri said she wanted... Right, and I'm the queen of England.
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No, actually, it is perfectly reasonable to question the motives of a man who only made his claim that she wants to die 7 years later, AFTER he received the 1.7 million dollar settlement, 700,000 which was supposed to go towards her rehabilitation.

It is also reasonable to want to get to the bottom of the serious allegations from Terri's close friends and family that he was abusive, controlling, and possibly the person who put her into the hospital in the first place. Her medical records show that she had broken bones and signs of strangulation, yet as far as I have heard, there was never an investigation into the intital cause of her 'collapse', and the possibility of foul play. And why he, if he had been trained as a paramedic, didn't know to take her to the hospital immediately, he waited before calling 911, why is that?

No, what I think is idiotic is to ignore everything that goes against the story that he is just doing what Terri said she wanted... Right, and I'm the queen of England.

Nice to meet you, your majesty.

All of these issues have been investigated by journalists, medical personnel and the courts.
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I don't know about anyone else, but if I become a vegetable, and I'm not prognosed as coming out of it...un-hook me after about a year or so.

Thanks in advance.

Congratulations! You've just written a living will.

Now hope someone remembers where it's at when you need it.

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Psalm, it would seem by your posts that you have only read/listened to the propaganda of the Fundies who want to keep Terri alive. There have been investigations into this supposed abuse and it was determined by a bone scan and other tests that her injuries were consistent with life saving measures. Have you ever seen what doctors and paramedics do in order to resusitate someone? It can be very brutal.

And if you think money is his motivation, could you please explain why when offered sums of 1 million and 10 million dollars to turn over guardianship he declined?
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Wouldn't it be great if all the money and effort of keeping the husk going for the last 15 years had been put into neurological research instead?
How about taking all of the money spent on parasitic religions, tens of billions just in the USA, and apply it to something useful or productive?
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No, actually, it is perfectly reasonable to question the motives of a man who only made his claim that she wants to die 7 years later, AFTER he received the 1.7 million dollar settlement, 700,000 which was supposed to go towards her rehabilitation.

It is also reasonable to want to get to the bottom of the serious allegations from Terri's close friends and family that he was abusive, controlling, and possibly the person who put her into the hospital in the first place. Her medical records show that she had broken bones and signs of strangulation, yet as far as I have heard, there was never an investigation into the intital cause of her 'collapse', and the possibility of foul play. And why he, if he had been trained as a paramedic, didn't know to take her to the hospital immediately, he waited before calling 911, why is that?
You're contradicting yourself with your facts. He received money as the result of a lawsuit filed against the doctors who were treating her, and the jury awarded a verdict of $1,000,000. (later settled on appeal) The theory of the case was that the doctors were negligent in failing to diagnose her bulimia. They would have had the opportunity to "get to the bottom" of allegations of abuse, while attempting to defend the claim that the cause of her heart attack was their negligence. Apprarently, the jury decided that Michael proved his case, she had a heart attack because of the malpractice of the doctors in failing to notice her bulimia. I doubt they would have awarded a judgment of $1,000,000 to a man who abused his wife, especially if the abuse contributed to her subsequent medical condition.

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No, what I think is idiotic is to ignore everything that goes against the story that he is just doing what Terri said she wanted... Right, and I'm the queen of England.
This case is one in which no stone has been unturned. So I don't think anyone has allowed any fact to be ignored. It's people now, after the fact, with a clear agenda to pursue, who want to use this case for their own ends, by claiming that facts are being ignored. It's all just spin.

And claiming that her husband should have filed to have her feeding tube removed sooner, is disingenuous at best. You would want him to have the tube removed before all possible options are carefully considered, before time has proven that she will never get better? Then what would you say about him? Too quick to leave her? :huh: She suffered a heart attack in 1990. He waited 3 years, tried various therapies, including experimental ones, sued to recover money for her care, (and do you really feel 1 million dollars is enough to care for a 30 year old person for the rest of her life? Don't forget the attorneys fees on that money.) then waited another 5 years before he finally accepted that she was not going to get better.

Thank god for judges.

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Well said, SI, nice succinct summation. :thumbs:
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It would be interesting to go back in time and discover *why* Terri was bulemic.

Wouldn't it be ironic if it was a poor self-image caused by abusive, controlling parents?
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