andrewcriddle

Hi Pete

one of the relevant images on the net is the one I posted at
http://www.hypotyposeis.org/weblog/2...scription.html the graffiti appears to be explicitly Christian.

Andrew Criddle

Ben C Smith

Here is the relevant inscription with transcription:



The nomina sacra (holy abbreviations) for the accusative of Christ and Jesus are clear as day.

Ben.

mountainman

A really TRUE christian cross is the type of cross that The Boss' mother Helena is supposed to have "discovered" just after the Council of Nicaea while travelling through the "Holy Land".

In regard to the question of of lack of evidence for the evolution of the association of the cross and christianity, there are a number of possible alternatives for why this does not happen until the 4th century. We only have Eusebius to thank for telling us about "early christians" and "the early christian persecutions". Aren't we lucky the Boss preserved Eusebius!

Best wishes


Pete Brown

Jeffrey Gibson

And what type of cross was that? More importantly, how did that one differ from the ones upon which the "theives" were crucified, which, according to Socrates Scholasticus, Sozomen, and Theodoret, she also uncovered?

Jeffrey

mountainman

Thanks for the data Andrew and Ben,

There are some questions in my mind about this citation:

1) Is the nomina sacra JS ever used for Joshua?
2) Is the nomina sacra CT ever used for "Chrestos"?
3) That the inscription was written c.256 CE requires the invocation of the cone of silence for the period from then until c.1920's. Is this correct? Is there any public domain report on this aspect of proceedings? For example, was the entire house buried including roof access thereto from all points? Questions like this need to be answered.
4) What does "David and Goliath" photo and tracing imply?
5) What or who are the figures in the mural?
6) Is that an elephant in the room?
7) What additional (online) data exists on this?
8) How does the text relate to the picture?

Thanks again and best wishes,


Pete Brown

mountainman

There is a rather graphic account of how a scientific experiment was designed by which Helena, having found these three crosses of Calvary, was able to convince herself, and the Boss, in the identification of the one true cross which had borne the body of the god of the observable universe (inside the hubble limit), and to distiguish it from the other two crosses which had borne the "brigands".

I seem to recall mention somewhere in another (apocryphal) account that the one true cross was fashioned from a tree grown by the father of Jesus from a seed. Can anyone recall this?


Best wishes,


Pete brown

Amaleq13

You have not answered my question. Are you able to answer it or is this just more unsubstantiated bluster?

You also have not answered this question. Are you able to answer it or is this just more unsubstantiated bluster?

:banghead:

patcleaver

Thanks, God Fearing Atheist.

Do you have a site that contains (Iudicium vocalium.

God Fearing Atheist

Hengel has it in Crucifixion. Search for "tau."

Jeffrey Gibson

Which is found where?

Which only goes to show that for all practical purposes that cross that Jesus was crucified on was indistinguishable from the other crosses found there and that the idea of a specifically Christian cross did not exist.

Jeffrey