Gamera

Good points. Look, more is always better in archeology. But lacking a corpse, I would hope they can find some substantial evidence that this is his tomb beyond the obviousness of it all.

Larsguy47

HERE A VIDEO AND SOME OTHER LINKS/INFO:






http://multimedia.repubblica.it/home/687341


And a 1 min. video. It's in Italian:

http://multimedia.repubblica.it/home/687341

Antonio

Il giorno 08/mag/07, alle ore 11:41, Joe Zias ha scritto:

> I just rtn from the press conf. at the Hebrew Univ. on the tomb of
> Herod the Great which has finally been discovered after nearly 40
> years of searching. Prof. Ehud Netzer presented to a packed
> audience, in a very convincing way, based upon archaeological and
> architectural evidence that the tomb of Herod was finally found.
>
> The bad news is that it was vandalized in antiquity, not surprising
> in light of the turbulent times following his death and his many
> enemies. Fragmentary remains of the sarcophagus and the facade,
> both of monumental proportions as well as the location is in my
> opinion, provide conclusive evidence that this is the place.
>
> The only surprising thing is that it's location near the monumental
> steps, should have been the first place to look for as Jews never
> buried within the confines of a city, either atop the palace or
> below. Congratulations are due to all of those involved which shows
> what I any others have been saying for years, archaeology is 95%
> patience and 5% luck, unlike the latest hype one sees in
> archaeology today in the media driven profession whereby textual
> scholars and film makers pretend to know something about archaeology.
>
> Joe Zias
>
> Joe Zias www.joezias.com
> Anthropology/Paleopathology

The following gives very good detail on the discovery of Herod's tomb,
its location, and some items that were discovered.

http://www.huji.ac.il/cgi-bin/dovrut...61762132688760

This next link is to a series of images. Some show the excavation on
the side of the Herodium.

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/even...S5_nsNsCJpWscF

Enjoy! Fascinating stuff!

Bryan Cox
Plano, Tx

Steven Avery

The diverse and complimentary source references about the 1st century events, including the NT, Josephus, Tacitus & Talmud are fascinating. There is discussion and commentary by many given at the preterist archive site.

http://www.preteristarchive.com/Stud...in-clouds.html
Chariots in the Clouds - During the "Second Passover" of A.D. 66
as Recorded by Josephus, Tacitus and others.

Shalom,
Steven

spin

Too bad none of them can be securely placed in the 1st c. -- with the possible exception of Josephus, if he did in fact write the passage(s) attributed to him, a fact that has been doubted for centuries (and only recently, as a higher degree of historicity has been required, have sections been rehabilitated).


spin

Riverwind

Wow...common' people, the discovery was made this week and this thread has already sunk to the bottom of a heap of junk posts and pseudo-scholarship...

Anyway, to bring this back to Herod's Tomb, here is an interesting video from Beliefnet:
http://www.beliefnet.com/av/popuppla...f52977464251cd

If anyone has found more good pictures or information on what has been found so far, or any pictures pointing out specific structures and what they are, please post them.

Toto

Some explanation is called for.

Cege

National Geographic News site has some info and photos.

EthnAlln

Or, Josephus might have taken the stories about Jesus as evidence that he existed and compared them with alternative versions given by the Jews. The fact that he may have believed Jesus really existed doesn't weigh very heavily as evidence that Jesus actually did exist, since Josephus doesn't say what evidence he had for the life of Jesus. (I myself never challenge that basic assumption. The problem I have is knowing which of the NT narratives describe events in Jesus' life that actually happened, and which were embroidered and/or made up out of whole cloth later.)

EthnAlln

Are you sure you want to use this argument? What historians believe about the Trojan War supports less than 1% of what Homer narrates. Should we draw that conclusion about the NT?

EthnAlln

There is still papyrus in Egypt. An Egyptian friend of mine recently sent me one, with a copy of a tomb painting on it.

And Josh Bernstein went to Egypt and filmed the entire process of making paper out of it. That episode was aired a few weeks ago.