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Old 12-29-2008, 10:13 AM   #21
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It's always been my understanding that the census under who's circumstances Jesus was allegedly born was a somewhat ham handed fabrication of Luke's for the purposes of shoehorning Jesus into the relevant prophecies. Even if you set aside the fact that it doesn't appear in any records, the process is absolutely ludicrous. Joseph is asked to go to a city because a distant and irrelevant (as far as the Romans are concerned) ancestor lived there? However, I was recently left without an answer when a Christian told me there were records of similar practices, particularly one in Egypt in the second century. I was unable to press for more information, but has anyone here heard of this? Did such a census ever take place, anywhere?
There's a wiki article on the census of Quirinius in 6 CE in relation to gLuke:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_..._New_Testament
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Old 12-29-2008, 11:10 AM   #22
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It may have been in response to this problem that Tertullian, writing around AD 200, stated that the census had been taken by Gnaeus Sentius Saturninus (legate of Syria, 9-6 BC) rather than Quirinius
Does not this support Mountainman? Why would anyone have been arguing about this minutiae in the 180s? To support a new emperor's agenda though...

And we are now used to disinterested censuses - surely then their purpose would have been to work out how much tax was collectable, who might be soldiers and how much corn dole had to be given out. There had to be records of this - why were Rome's docks so big?
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No, this does not support mountainman. If Tertullian was worried about this issue, then Constantine could not have invented Christianity and Jesus out of whole cloth in the 4th century, and mountainman is wrong.

Perhaps you are thinking of Joseph Atwill?
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