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Dark Virtue · 09-25-2004, 08:00 PM

Is there evidence to show that man and dinosaurs existed at the same time?

Creationist websites are asserting that this is so. I just wanted to know if their information was accurate or skewed to show a young earth theory. Namely they point to fossil footprints of dinosaurs and man in the Paluxy River bed in Glen Rose, Texas.

Thanks!

Rhaedas · 09-25-2004, 08:08 PM

No.

Those "footprints" have been explained as being eroded footprints of a dinosaur, I believe, and they didn't look remotely like human footprints from what I saw anyway.

Dark Virtue · 09-25-2004, 08:10 PM

I don't suppose you have any links do you? I appreciate the help

RBH · 09-25-2004, 08:20 PM

Here is Glen Kuban's TO treatment of the Paluxy River tracks.

RBH

Karalora · 09-25-2004, 08:29 PM

Actually, dinosaurs and man did co-exist. And still do. The dinosaurs are mostly real small nowadays, though, as well as being utterly lacking in teeth.

Photon · 09-25-2004, 11:32 PM

Though those damn ostriches are still bigger than me.

The Paluxy tracks have been long debunked, as have all arguments for a young earth.

Biff the unclean · 09-25-2004, 11:48 PM

I've been to Paluxy and I can honestly say that some of the tracks are of human feet and were made by humans. I've seen them.

Humans with hammers & chisels. Vandalizing dino tracks and carving fake human ones is a cottage industry among the Christians of Paluxy.

Berthold · 09-26-2004, 01:43 AM

A Clovis spearpoint is probably much harder to insert convincingly into the right strata. But perhaps they are already working on that.

Dean Anderson · 09-26-2004, 02:30 AM

Dinosaurs do exist alongside man.

I saw some myself last year when I visited the Natural History Museum in London.

Oh... sorry... you meant dinosaurs that were still alive...

Nevermind then.

powderman · 09-26-2004, 04:24 AM

What about the Inca burial stones which depicted realistic carvings of Dinosaurs? How would the Incas know what a Dinosaur looked like?

What about the Dinosaur figurines from Acambaro Mexico? How would they be able to fashion a figurine of a creature they never saw?

What about the Doheny Expedition to the Hava Supai Canyon where they found a pictograph of a dinosaur on the side of the cave walls? How would those Indians know what a dinosaur looked like unless they had seen one?

Do a google search on any three of these. You will find a plethora of information on the web.

09-25-2004, 08:00 PM	#1
Dark Virtue Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 759	Did dinosaurs and man exist simultaneously? Is there evidence to show that man and dinosaurs existed at the same time? Creationist websites are asserting that this is so. I just wanted to know if their information was accurate or skewed to show a young earth theory. Namely they point to fossil footprints of dinosaurs and man in the Paluxy River bed in Glen Rose, Texas. Thanks!

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09-25-2004, 08:08 PM	#2
Rhaedas Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,440	No. Those "footprints" have been explained as being eroded footprints of a dinosaur, I believe, and they didn't look remotely like human footprints from what I saw anyway.

09-25-2004, 08:10 PM	#3
Dark Virtue Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 759	I don't suppose you have any links do you? I appreciate the help

09-25-2004, 08:20 PM	#4
RBH Contributor Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 15,407	Here is Glen Kuban's TO treatment of the Paluxy River tracks. RBH

09-25-2004, 08:29 PM	#5
Karalora Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Fernando Valley, CA Posts: 2,627	Actually, dinosaurs and man did co-exist. And still do. The dinosaurs are mostly real small nowadays, though, as well as being utterly lacking in teeth.

09-25-2004, 11:32 PM	#6
Photon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 703	Though those damn ostriches are still bigger than me. The Paluxy tracks have been long debunked, as have all arguments for a young earth.

09-25-2004, 11:48 PM	#7
Biff the unclean Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: an inaccessible island fortress Posts: 10,638	I've been to Paluxy and I can honestly say that some of the tracks are of human feet and were made by humans. I've seen them. Humans with hammers & chisels. Vandalizing dino tracks and carving fake human ones is a cottage industry among the Christians of Paluxy.

09-26-2004, 01:43 AM	#8
Berthold Veteran Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vienna, AUSTRIA Posts: 6,147	A Clovis spearpoint is probably much harder to insert convincingly into the right strata. But perhaps they are already working on that.

09-26-2004, 02:30 AM	#9
Dean Anderson Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Brighton, England Posts: 6,947	Dinosaurs do exist alongside man. I saw some myself last year when I visited the Natural History Museum in London. Oh... sorry... you meant dinosaurs that were still alive... Nevermind then.

09-26-2004, 04:24 AM	#10
powderman Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 13	What about the Inca burial stones which depicted realistic carvings of Dinosaurs? How would the Incas know what a Dinosaur looked like? What about the Dinosaur figurines from Acambaro Mexico? How would they be able to fashion a figurine of a creature they never saw? What about the Doheny Expedition to the Hava Supai Canyon where they found a pictograph of a dinosaur on the side of the cave walls? How would those Indians know what a dinosaur looked like unless they had seen one? Do a google search on any three of these. You will find a plethora of information on the web.

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