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Old 06-30-2009, 09:01 PM   #71
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SM, you still haven't answered the question of why JC wrote four gospels, or referred to himself in the third person.
To give us a better understanding of his nature from all sides of the plate.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:03 PM   #72
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When is Jesus going to shoot the film version and release it in theaters? (preferably in 3-D)

Since Jesus is God, he could "poof" the story as seen from his eyes onto a DVD and strategically place one in each mailbox in the world thereby giving everyone the gospel message with sub titles in their own language thereby evangelizing the world so he can finally come back and do all the cool stuff in Revelation.

I bet it comes in hi def! Woot!
That wouldn't be fair to everyone who lived in the past without DVD's.
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Old 06-30-2009, 09:07 PM   #73
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Following the logic of the OP:

There are passages in the gospels that not even Jesus could have known about. For example, the secret conversation between Judas Iscariot and the chief priests. Therefore, the chief priests wrote the gospels.

Then there was the conversation between Herod and the Maji. Jesus couldn't have know about that, being less than two years old. Therefore, Herod wrote the gospels. But then again, the Maji had a dream warning them not to re-visit Herod after visiting Joseph, Mary, and Jesus, so maybe it must have been the three Maji who wrote the gospels.

Don't forget the conversation between the chief priests and Pontius Pilate regarding posting a guard at Jesus' tomb. Jesus was dead then, so Pontius Pilate must have written the gospels. Even more so when we consider the conversation between Pilate and his wife regarding her dream about Jesus.

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Oh wait a darn minute you guys. In the story Jesus had scribes. (He sent messages to John in prison). And after Jesus went to heaven his scribes wrote stuff and then those scribes wrote more stuff, until the story reached Rome and the Romans got interested in the story, and of course the Romans also had their own scribes who scribbled what they had heard and more stuff was added and taken away from the story. But the big break came when Constantine declared Christians an official recognition via another scribe called Eusebius who of course was followed by scribes and more scribbling from heresay. And Jesus not only became a Zombie, he became the God of the zombies. The Christian Zombies, the walking dead. And so, as the story goes, the road to hell is paved with dead Christian zombies. None are righteous, no not one.

IF I had known then what I know now, I'd never have believed in such nonsense. But hey, we live and learn. Some quicker than others I suppose.
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When is Jesus going to shoot the film version and release it in theaters? (preferably in 3-D)
Hey - this actually already happened in ancient history.
Jesus was voted GOD at Nicaea even though absent.
Three hundred and eighteen signatures confirm the decision.
It was a political move by Arius to vacate the temples.
The old Hellenistic gods were old and diverse.
It was time for a big unification - just like those pesky Persians.

Moreover, it was big business as soon as funds became
available from Helenistic gold, and foundations became
available from Hellenistic temples and shrines which
by default were, shall we say, no longer required.

Any new Jesus would have to deal with the fourth century
copyright issues - there could be papal litigation ...
Popes-to-Be literally fought mafia-thug-like-style
in the street over the ESTABLISHED BUSINESS.



Prestigous.
Imperially supported.
Lots of perks and tax dodges.
Nice accomodation.
Good relations with the army.
Personal friends of the emperor.
What more could the Graeco-Roman
man in the street want out of life?

Salvation from imperial extortion?
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Following the logic of the OP:

There are passages in the gospels that not even Jesus could have known about. For example, the secret conversation between Judas Iscariot and the chief priests. Therefore, the chief priests wrote the gospels.

Then there was the conversation between Herod and the Maji. Jesus couldn't have know about that, being less than two years old. Therefore, Herod wrote the gospels. But then again, the Maji had a dream warning them not to re-visit Herod after visiting Joseph, Mary, and Jesus, so maybe it must have been the three Maji who wrote the gospels.

Don't forget the conversation between the chief priests and Pontius Pilate regarding posting a guard at Jesus' tomb. Jesus was dead then, so Pontius Pilate must have written the gospels. Even more so when we consider the conversation between Pilate and his wife regarding her dream about Jesus.

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Presumably Jesus, being omniscient, did know about those things...
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Of course there are no contradictions in the gospels. That's why there is only one Christian denomination in the world, in which all believers agree.
ALL denominations are corruptions. The only right way is Jesus' words alone.
Which is why I hate my parents and never look at a woman lustfully.

Oh, wait, I'm not Jewish, so His rules don't appy to me ...
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Looks like Jesus never knew Hebrew, or the Gospel writers knew only Latin. Real Hebrew Jews never used latin. Or maybe, by a convenient co-incidence - the Hebrew writings were lost!
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Oh, wait, I'm not Jewish, so His rules don't appy to me ...
Last time I checked, the Hebrew laws are all active and applicable - and none of the Gospel laws are accepted by the world's institutions. Just as well - who wants to be ruled by the rake and sword again!
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About the things in the gospels that only involve Jesus and nobody else was there - maybe Jesus later told his disciples about them, before he died.
Sure he did!!! He met with Moses and was transfigured on a mountain top!
Those kind of tales guarantee that they originated in the minds of the authors whoever they were. Better still, the authors wrote about the legends that were around decades before they were written down.
This was a time when people believed in magical happenings.
The placebo effect was considered as miracles.
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