Pmarra

I have never launched a challenge to find a sentence that contained Pi as Gen1.1

then it doesn't have sense speak of defeated or lost challenge

it has sense instead admit that many unlikely phenomenons all presents inside Gen1.1 are a serious proof of the supernatural origin of Gen1.1

reddish

You did issue, and refine, a challenge. But let's leave that aside for now.

You are still not answering the question:

What kind of thing would pursuade you that your result is coincidental and meaningless?

TNorthover

OK then, what would convince you that it's just coincidence? We've found similar occurrences in other texts and given arguments that they're actually quite likely (which you continue to ignore -- I feel like Cato here, ending everything with a "ceterum censeo").

What more do you want? How can we convince you that you're wrong? that what you've spotted is just down to coincidence? If you can't see a way, please tell us so we can all stop wasting our time.

SophistiCat

Fine, if you don't trust me - here are some values.

EDIT: Ugh, it looks like I was using an incorrect formula? OK, no problem, just a little correction in the program. The formula now is

(The number of letters x the product of the letters) / (The number of words x the product of the words)

The interesting thing is that I am actually getting more hits this way.

So, back to "Paradise Lost". The numerical translations of letters follow the verse:

(Book2, verse 33) Precedence, none, whose portion is so small
<70><90><5><3><5><4><5><50><3><5> <50><60><50><5> <500><8><60><100><5> <70><60><90><200><9><60><50> <9><100> <100><60> <100><40><1><30><30>
35 letters, 7 words
>> Result ~ 3.14164 * 8 * 10^n

(Book3, verse 327) The living, and forthwith the cited dead
<200><8><5> <30><9><400><9><50><7> <1><50><4> <6><60><90><200><8><500><9><200><8> <200><8><5> <3><9><200><5><4> <4><5><1><4>
33 letters, 7 words
>> Result ~ 3.14154 / 2 * 10^n

(Book4, verse 710) Espoused EVE deckt first her Nuptial Bed,
<5><100><70><60><300><100><5><4> <5><400><5> <4><5><3><20><200> <6><9><90><100><200> <8><5><90> <50><300><70><200><9><1><30> <2><5><4>
34 letters, 7 words
>> Result ~ 3.14165 * 2 * 10^n

(Book6, verse 817) Therefore to mee thir doom he hath assig'n'd;
<200><8><5><90><5><6><60><90><5> <200><60> <40><5><5> <200><8><9><90> <4><60><60><40> <8><5> <8><1><200><8> <1><100><100><9><7><50><4>
35 letters, 8 words
>> Result ~ 3.14155 * 2 * 10^n

(Book7, verse 550) So Ev'n and Morn accomplish'd the Sixt day:
<100><60> <5><400><50> <1><50><4> <40><60><90><50> <1><3><3><60><40><70><30><9><100><8><4> <200><8><5> <100><9><600><200> <4><1><700>
33 letters, 8 words
>> Result ~ 3.14155 / 8 * 10^n

(Book8, verse 766) Irrational till then. For us alone
<9><90><90><1><200><9><60><50><1><30> <200><9><30><30> <200><8><5><50> <6><60><90> <300><100> <1><30><60><50><5>
28 letters, 6 words
>> Result ~ 3.14168 / 7 * 10^n

EDIT2: It looks like our theologist cum mathematician is simply lying. Going to his original post, the original formula was the correct one. Well, no matter, this doesn't change the outcome.

John A. Broussard

That proves it!!

Pmarra will be back with 32 pt. boldface pointing out that the square root of Elohim, multiplied by the number of sheep in Baluchistan is equal to the factorial equivalent of epsilon plus pi raised to the nth power.

So there!!!

Thief of Time

Hmm.
That formula seems to give out the average number of words per sentance, x2. Or did I screw up somewhere?
(I just tryed to find the limit x->infinity where x is the number of letters, taking a as the average number of letters in a word, and got 2a.)

V-Bird

Errr... can anyone tell me if all this 'numeracy' would work quite so well if we had been blessed with 10 fingers and 2 thumbs?

You have to admire Paolo for sticking with it though... Twerp is another unique word... it is both descriptive and is imbued with shattering accuracy when applied in certain circumstances.

I did start the to lose the will to live by page 2 of this diatribe of tripe, but only managed to keep my self awake 'til page 4 by beating myself about the head with a handy Anglepoise lamp so can anyone enlighten me as to whether our 'numerologist' explained the inaccuracy in 'pi'?

Did I tell you all about the time I found an image of the Virgin Mary on a toilet wall? Fair proof to my mind that there really is a God and he has a great sense of humour.

Bless Him.

NZSkep

Well I can find pi by taking any circle. Any true circle whatsoever! and simply dividng the circumference by the diameter. That is to an infinite number of digits too. how amazing!

Thief of Time

So perhaps the conclusion is the god invented the concept of the limit? and then didn't bother to tell anyone.
Except, Genesis doesn't include the concept of the limit, its just got pi. Why bother with something like that? A limit is infinitely more useful (pun not intended) than knowing an approximation of pi. After all, with limits, we can approximate pi till the cows come home (As the saying goes :P)

John A. Broussard

Also, which has been overlooked, the bible spelled backwards is "elbib" which contains the 305th trillionth mersenne prime.

The proof is obvious, however, so I won't bother to demonstrate it here.