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Old 04-05-2013, 12:35 PM   #21
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I honestly do not know what you are driving at, Semiopen, and I hope you do so that you can clarify better what it is you are trying to argue here. But again, I am not sure what is appropriate to this Forum.
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I honestly do not know what you are driving at, Semiopen, and I hope you do so that you can clarify better what it is you are trying to argue here. But again, I am not sure what is appropriate to this Forum.
Why not just post a notice that only Haredi Jews can post on your threads?

I made a post relating to the milieu that a guy who is mentioned in both the NT and Talmud would have lived in. The Talmud appears to consider him a follower of Hillel as opposed to Shammai, and there is support for the opinion that Yoshke was also.

You replied that this has nothing to do with the OP.

Now you are just acting stupid.
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If I were a betting man, I would put down a large amount as a bet that Semiopen is a member of my tribe.........
I assumed your posts were meant to follow up on my OP which is why I don't understand what you are driving at since you are moving away from the original point by delving into Hillel and Shammai.

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I honestly do not know what you are driving at, Semiopen, and I hope you do so that you can clarify better what it is you are trying to argue here. But again, I am not sure what is appropriate to this Forum.
Why not just post a notice that only Haredi Jews can post on your threads?

I made a post relating to the milieu that a guy who is mentioned in both the NT and Talmud would have lived in. The Talmud appears to consider him a follower of Hillel as opposed to Shammai, and there is support for the opinion that Yoshke was also.

You replied that this has nothing to do with the OP.

Now you are just acting stupid.
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It remains something unusual that the person called Nicodemus should appear only in GJohn. If he was so renowned in the way GJohn describes him, then presumably it would have been expected that he would appear in every gospel, not unlike other figures who appear in each one.

Of course he is not described in any meaningful way except as a "religious leader," whatever GJohn intended by that term, especially since the author could have used any name to describe a famous Jew in Jerusalem. It would appear, therefore, that knowledge about Nakdimon ben Gurion before the destruction of Jerusalem was limited to the author of GJohn based simply on stories he had heard from Jews not know to the other gospel authors.
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It remains something unusual that the person called Nicodemus should appear only in GJohn. If he was so renowned in the way GJohn describes him, then presumably it would have been expected that he would appear in every gospel, not unlike other figures who appear in each one.

Of course he is not described in any meaningful way except as a "religious leader," whatever GJohn intended by that term, especially since the author could have used any name to describe a famous Jew in Jerusalem.
If so, why this one?

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It would appear, therefore, that knowledge about Nakdimon ben Gurion before the destruction of Jerusalem was limited to the author of GJohn based simply on stories he had heard from Jews not know to the other gospel authors.
Why is Judas the Galilean and Theudas -- both well known -- or for that matter, Gamaliel, mentioned only by "Luke", and Annas only by John? On your logic, they could not have been well known and knowledge of these people was limited only to Luke" and John based soley on stories they heard from Jews.

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Jeffrey, that's a very good question. Perhaps then it was a matter of literary preferences. For GJohn, then, perhaps the issue of Nicodemus was more important than to the other authors, and likewise concerning Theudas and Judah, who are known only from Josephus (and presumably not the Theudas referred to in the Talmud).
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