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aa5874 · 05-13-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewcriddle

Gary Habermas says that "the disciples thought that they had seen the risen Jesus." Whatever one thinks of the truth or falsity of such a belief, it does seem highly probable that Jesus' disciples came, shortly after his death, to believe that they had seen the risen Jesus.

(This conclusion is obviously vulnerable to unconventional claims about the date and background of the NT writings, eg the claim that the Gospels are 2nd century CE works, but on standard datings etc the conclusion does seem very likely.)

Andrew Criddle

But, why did you assume that there were real actual disciples? You cannot even show that Jesus existed as described in the NT Canon.

The very Canon which claimed Jesus was the offspring of the Holy Ghost and a Virgin also claimed that the offspring of the Holy Ghost was raised from the dead but this must be fiction.

How could disciples SEE and IDENTIFY a fictitious character? How could anyone SEE and IDENTIFY what did not EXIST.

They must have SEEN a "PLASTIC BAG".

But, there were no PLASTIC BAGS then.

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