Sheshbazzar

Yes, even that Southern Baptist Christian fire seems to be finally dying off. Thank gawd.

Toto

The KKK is an avowedly Christian organization. It claims that cross burning has Scottish origins

Actual historyeta: The Straight Dope

aa5874

Well, well, well!!! Why don't you answer the question?? You have brought "Antigonus" into this thread so you must FIRST identify your Antigonus.

No Robots

Mythicists and the far Right (the Klan, the Nazis, the Haredim) agree that Christ was not a Jew. All these groups can join together around the burning cross.

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Toto

Please stop this guilt by association. Besides, some mythicists believe that Jesus was a Jewish myth, created by Jews.

Only the Klan burns crosses, for fake historical reasons (or did you bother to read the actual history?)

No one else wants to be associated with a burning cross.

No Robots

Hey, it wasn't I who wrote:

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Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar Until finally, those few that do recall these ages of primitive superstition and needless bloodshed over these crude symbols will only shake their head, and see them all as nothing more than quaint anthropological relics of humanities bloody and shameful past.

But they do not hold that he was a Jew, ie. a Jewish man. That is unacceptable to the mythicists. Anyway, which mythicist holds the position that Christ and the New Testament are wholly Jewish? R. G. Price in his self-published treatise is the only one I can think of. Every other mythicist roots Christ and the New Testament in some kind of pagan origin. Correspondences with the Talmud are never discussed by mythicists.

My own guess is that the Christianity of the Klan is only skin deep, that they harken back to the glory days of Celtic paganism, and that the scholarly consensus that Christ was a Jew is driving them into mythicism. Mythicists are paving the way for the far Right to establish a Jew-free Christ.

Why not, if it is nothing but, "quaint anthropological relics of humanities bloody and shameful past?"

Sheshbazzar

In my case, began as a myth created by post-Temple non-indigenous Hellenistic 'Jews' (ethinic Judeans) primarily as religious/political propaganda intended for consumption by the Gentiles (Greeks) and contemporary non-indigenous 'Jews', circa 100-180 CE.

The myth began as a midrashim way for non-patriotic turncoat non-indigenous Diaspora 'Jews' to rationalize and explain away the destruction of the Temple and disassociate themselves from the previously overlording and now failed Priestly caste, while at the same time promoting themselves as being 'better' Jews than those other 'legalistic' Temple Jews in the eyes of the Hellenic societies they were now without choice compelled to adjust to and live within.
(basically the old 'me good injun, them bad injun' means of ingrating and integrating with a formidable foe.)

Once it caught on, the goyim took it and ran with it, creatively adapting to it popular tropes and theology drawn from their own philosophical/religious heritages.
The finished NT is not solely a Jewish production, nor a Greek production, but rather a stew of religious elements gleaned from half a dozen cultures and dozens of sectarian cults.
All finally standardized by the destruction of all variant texts along with wholesale execution of those who possessed such, or who would not conform to the demands of the emergent Orthodoxy.




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Yellum Notnef

If burning a cross in my yard would put a stop to all this Jesus nonsense then sign me up! But we all know that fiery crosses do nothing but add even more crazy to something that's already full to the brim.

No Robots

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar A Jew shouldn't be engaged in attempting to legitimize any claims for the goyim's syncretized mythical sun god.

So where does the "goyim's syncretized mythical sun god" come in? Is it the product of "post-Temple non-indigenous Hellenistic 'Jews'?" And why the scare quotes?