Iskander

Insults, threats. .. very funny. Oh Mighty prodigal son.

Toto

Sometimes I try to clean up threads by splitting off Chili's unique contributions and removing digressions. I'm not sure this thread could be rescued.

Iskander

I am willing to go away if you think I should. You can always push me out of here, but there is no need to spill blood.

Chili

I like the term 'fulltime professional torturer' ruling over "those who have drank of the wine of God's wrath poured in [various strength] in the cup of his anger", obviously, because angels are always messengers and never more than that.

These are those who will find no rest by day or by night and the smoke of their torment shall rise forever and ever, which comes across to many also as sufficient grounds for suicide. Nut-houses are full of them and so are charismatic churches.

These are those who have committed the sin against the HS by way of fornicating their own mind to set free the child within before God's own time where now a love afair remains from a distance with no consumation ever to be had. This is like duffy Macduff who was "from his mother's womb untimely ripped" because Macbeth also "wanted to be king hereafter" as this satire against the C of E goes as per John 1:13, that reads: "who were begotten not by blood, nor by carnal desire, nor by man's willing it but by God."

So the difference here is by God in God's own time (Songs 2:7 here), and most unlike in Matthew and Mark where camelhair coat John baptised after they confessed their sins like and evangelist in his travelling rally tent.

So then note also that Jesus here, post resurrection now, goes back to Galilee again now as professional evangelist to zap some more, to even a cat, I have heard it said, or at least he tried, for he has power, can't you see, and forward they all came with halleluia's sounding from the stage.

Sophistry is what Plato called it, by look-alikes, empowered also in their deprivation of the privation that they see within:

". . . About which [they were] earnest, but surely is by no means of verbal, as other modes of learning are. It rather emerges in the soul on a sudden from much emergent dwelling as does something set alight by a leaping fire and forthwith nourshing itself," (Seventh Epistle, 341C).

I like that line except that there it includes a "living with the pragma itself, in syn-ousia as logos and syzen in being one" here now as the illuminated animal man that is called "the first beast" of Rev.13:1-10 as opposed to the "second beast" as look-alike from verse 11-17. Following that are they identified as the first beast of John 6:56 and the second beast John 6:66.

So now look-alikes are absentees while fed from the same source via the angel of light without the effeminate source behind it, that so converts daimon into diamonion, who thus are convinced that they must die first before good things can happen to them. I.e. the BVM is missing in their life.

Notice also that the Jesus of Matthew and Mark is said to be the brother of Jesus in Luke and John who therefore is a 'look-alike' in the art of sophistry, as Plato called it, now as a deprivation of the privation that they see but cannot seize to make their own, and hence deprived as look-alikes will always be.

Bottom line? Camelhair coat John is handing out tickets to hell . . . and I can just dapper Jesus here go back to Galilee again, sending the women out before him announcing that the 'good news' is on its way.

So then, fulltime is real because one can only get born again once, wherein effectively access to the netherworld is gained to fuel the fire from within, but the upper room is never seen in Matthew nor in Mark, and we call them synoptic still?

So do you think maybe he was given a scorpion instead?

Chili

Just never mind me then, I am here to learn, and maybe you noticed that I do not participate in every tread.

Chili

And when it comes right down to it Jeffrey, the argument has been going on for 2000 years now and it should not end now either, or it would have not began.

Cheerful Charlie

Wherever the demons tell him to go.

Cheerful Charliie

Chili

Do you believe in demons now?