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Splarnst · 03-11-2008, 01:46 PM

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If Jesus was so evil and so intent on sending people to Hell, why bother dying a terrible, painful, humiliating death on the cross for those you intend on sending to Hell? That doesn't make sense.

I didn't write the story. Don't blame me if the plot makes no sense or the main character is a psychopath.

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it takes a evil person to reject and accuse Jesus of evil

Yes, I'm so evil.

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....in all my experiances dealing with people in person who rejected and hated Jesus there was not one of them who was not rotton to the core

That's because you define "rotten to the core" as "one who says Jesus is evil."

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.....yes it takes an evil person to accuse Christ as being evil, especially those who know His teachings and who has heard the Gospel over and over again.

It means nothing to be called evil by followers of a psychotic god of torture. It's like telling me I'm evil for calling Sauron evil.

sugarhitman · 03-11-2008, 01:47 PM

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.....so:

The god of the Bible arbitrarily decided what is sinful and what is not. (Don't believe me on the whole "arbitrary" bit? Here's a hint: Are you wearing clothes of mixed fabrics? If so, BibleGod hates you just as much as he hates witches and homosexuals. Oh, and he's against your pillows, too, just for added measure!)

The god of the Bible tortures the Israelites for well over a thousand years or more, sending out hellish punishments for such evil, evil things as interracial marriage and sparing people you conquer in war. (Except for the virgin girls; BibleGod says you get to rape them.) He's so heavy-handed that plagues issue forth for something as dumbass as taking a census.

He realized that people just couldn't be intimidated into perfect obediance, so, he came up with a new plan.

He:

Would send his only begotten son (who is somehow him as well, in a very Dissociative Identity kind of way) to commit suicide by cop, warn people about Hell (the ultimate threat, really), and then intimidate humanity in general by telling us what fucking losers we are. And he did just that, killing his son-personality in order to spare us from his wrath over things he arbitrarily decided to hate.

--sound about right to you, Sugarhitman? NB

Wow what ignorance. First of all God did not punish Israel for "interracial marriage" (the color of one's skin) he punished them because this intermarrying caused Israel to go into idol worship which included all those horrible customs that came with them (blood drinking, child sacrifice etc.) it was not because of race.....but customs.

Rape?? There is no where in the OT where rape is allowed, the Jews had a law against rape. Moses allowed the men to keep those virgens for Marriage not rape, he also allowed divorce....and God was against that too....not everyting allowed by Moses was supported by God.

Nero's Boot · 03-11-2008, 01:51 PM

.....excuse me, rape slaves. You shave those idolatress strumpets bald, ignore them for a month, then you can rape them silly. Yyou have read the Bible, right, where your "anti-rape advocate" Moses orders all the virgin girls in conquered towns to be raped? Taken as plunder?

--*sighs deeply* something tells me I'm going to have to stun Sugarhitman by pulling out the scriptures NB

Nero's Boot · 03-11-2008, 01:55 PM

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Wow what ignorance. First of all God did not punish Israel for "interracial marriage" (the color of one's skin) he punished them because this intermarrying caused Israel to go into idol worship which included all those horrible customs that came with them (blood drinking, child sacrifice etc.) it was not because of race.....but customs.

Incorrect. The Israelites were marrying outside of the line of Abraham. Marrying Moabites. It has nothing to do with religion; it had everything to do with sullying the bloodline.

--*sighs* OK, I'll be right back; time to dig out those loveable scriptures NB

sugarhitman · 03-11-2008, 01:56 PM

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This is Biblical Criticism...and one of the characters of the Bible that is often criticised is....Jesus Christ. I would say this is the correct site dont you agree?

Your post before this settles it: you think that we are rotten to the core and you want to preach to us, and that kind of trash goes to E.

"Criticism" has a more specific meaning here. It refers to critical analysis of the text, not just sneers and mud throwing.

Hold on until the thread stops moving. . . .

I said all those who call Jesus evil are evil....not all of you.
And if the shoe fits then wear it, for if you have the gall to accuse Jesus of being evil, why take offense when the finger is turned to you? In other words if you cant take it...dont dish it.

Mageth · 03-11-2008, 01:57 PM

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it takes a evil person to reject and accuse Jesus of evil

I would never send, nor allow, and would indeed do everything I could to prevent Jesus or anyone else, Satan included, from being confined to and suffering for eternity (or even for a very long time) in the depths of Hell. If it were within my powers, there would be no Hell.

How about Jesus?

Now, comparitively, who's the evil one?

xrey · 03-11-2008, 02:00 PM

To summarize an argument made by Sinclair Lewis:

If Jesus was all knowing, or at least had some knowledge of basic medicine, then for him to not tell people about the germ theory of disease would be evil. How many millions of people have died terrible deaths over ignorance?

In fact, Jesus instructed his followers not to wash their hands before eating (something about "the purity of the soul is more important than of the flesh").

The tolerance and passive resistance items of his ministry were net positives. It would be nice if Christians actually practiced those features.

Splarnst · 03-11-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarhitman

And if the shoe fits then wear it, for if you have the gall to accuse Jesus of being evil, why take offense when the finger is turned to you? In other words if you cant take it...dont dish it.

Jesus tortures people in a lake of fire for all eternity.
I say that any being that tortures people in a lake of fire for all eternity is evil.

Yeah, those are so the same.

sugarhitman · 03-11-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mageth

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it takes a evil person to reject and accuse Jesus of evil

I would never send, nor allow, and would indeed do everything I could to prevent Jesus or anyone else, Satan included, from being confined to and suffering for eternity (or even for a very long time) in the depths of Hell. If it were within my powers, there would be no Hell.

How about Jesus?

Now, comparitively, who's the evil one?

You are if you accuse Jesus of evil. And besides that He has done everything He could do.....but wicked people even despise that.

Sigma · 03-11-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mageth

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it takes a evil person to reject and accuse Jesus of evil

I would never send, nor allow, and would indeed do everything I could to prevent Jesus or anyone else, Satan included, from being confined to and suffering for eternity (or even for a very long time) in the depths of Hell. If it were within my powers, there would be no Hell.

How about Jesus?

Now, comparitively, who's the evil one?

Knowing that hell doesn't exist could have a detrimental affect on humanity - might send us into a fit of rape and murder knowing we won't get punished for it.

Yeah... I'm pulling these out of my ass.

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xrey Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,460	Evil of Ignorance To summarize an argument made by Sinclair Lewis: If Jesus was all knowing, or at least had some knowledge of basic medicine, then for him to not tell people about the germ theory of disease would be evil. How many millions of people have died terrible deaths over ignorance? In fact, Jesus instructed his followers not to wash their hands before eating (something about "the purity of the soul is more important than of the flesh"). The tolerance and passive resistance items of his ministry were net positives. It would be nice if Christians actually practiced those features.

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Nero's Boot Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,234	.....excuse me, rape slaves. You shave those idolatress strumpets bald, ignore them for a month, then you can rape them silly. Yyou have read the Bible, right, where your "anti-rape advocate" Moses orders all the virgin girls in conquered towns to be raped? Taken as plunder? --sighs deeply something tells me I'm going to have to stun Sugarhitman by pulling out the scriptures NB

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