Toto

This is not from wikipedia. It is from my own memories of the 70's and my reading in history.

The idea that women could be equal to men was considered outlandish for most of history. It took a lot of political effort to make it "common sense."

Elijah

Anything more on what Jesus should have done with the law or are you done with trying to support that assumption?

Toto

I think that you don't understand the basics of 1) feminism 2) equality 3) history or 4) the Jewish law. So this discussion is a little pointless.

Elijah

.... :wave:

rcscwc

Surely you can ask. Information gives details of which planet appeared where, which were retrograde, two eclipses 13 days apart [very rare]. Good enough to be analysed by LodeStar Pro.

Does this involve astronomical details too?[/QUOTE]

Yes, as above. Slightly weaker, but enough.

rcscwc

Maybe he did exist. In fact xians claim that he was prophecied hundreds of times in the OT. They even claim he was prophecied by Hindu scriptures. Hmm. So he was AWAITED eagerly, I believe. Hmmm. So was Krishna prophecied and awaited.

Prophecies about Jesus are, mostly, stretched thin. In case of K the prophecies were explicit. In fact His next advent is slated 427,000 hence. No ambiguity about time frame.

Conditions attending Jesus' birth are not known, in case of K they run into half a dozen pages.

Nothing is known about baby Jesus, there are detailed accounts of Baby K. Same as boys.

There is a blank period of 18 years about Jesus. Surprising for a much touted and prophecied and awaited saviour. No such blanks about K.

What was color of Jesus robe at crucifixation, who carried his cross, what was written on the cross? How many persons were at the cross site? No two books agree. Krishna's has always been described as yellow by hundreds of authors, and a peack feather in head head band. Pitambar, that with yellow raiment, is one of His name too.

The authors made a hash of Jesus' biography. It is full of inconsistencies and contradictions, as would happen when several persons fabricate a story. In case of K there are exactly ZERO contradictions.


You know what. The two life stories are structured differently. Apostles produced an example of HOW NOT to chrinicle a person. K's chronicles are an example of how to be business like about biographies.

aa5874

Now for the evidence to support such a "maybe".

The evidence for "never" is stronger.

rcscwc

Maybe is an IFFY thing. Maybe he did, but then it also implies MAYBE he did not.

Hindu scriptures have made a very strong case for existence of Krishna. That too in very distant past. Jesus was comparatively yesterdat's man. Still, the evidence for Jesus is much weaker than that for Plato!

ripley

Plato is not really a good comparison, since we have written works from him. Obviously someone must've written The Republic (or via: amazon.co.uk), and whoever it was, we can call that person Plato. Same goes for the Gospel of Mark. Whoever wrote it must've existed, and we call that person Mark. Jesus, however, we have have nothing from Jesus. Perhaps you'd be better off comparing him to Socrates.

aa5874

I don't know all you have read, but based on the information and written statements I have seen over the years, I can now say with reasonable confidence that Jesus of the NT did not exist at all in any real shape or form in the first century before or at the Fall of the Jewish Temple.

Jesus of the NT was a fabicated fiction paper character.