Crazy Liz

You don't suppose she got banned, do you?

Jobar

Pardon my slight derail- but are any of you CF people aware of any sizeable threads on CF which concern IIDB? I ask because we have (at a guess) more than a thousand pages about CF here, mostly by former or regular CF posters. (I've followed links from here to CF threads, but I'm not registered there. I'm not one to butt in where I'm not welcome, usually.)

If there are such threads, I'd be interested in a link.

foolsparade

I doubt it. For awhile, I was convinced that Carico was a man, but I also thought that bluetrinity was a woman. :huh:

rigorist

Those threads would be against the rules. IIDB admins have kindly let us use their bandwidth to have this little chat.

Props to IIDB admins for letting us have this bit o' space!

TransverseWave

I know of none, and I'm sure they'd get deleted if anyone started one, with the present attitude some of the CF moderators have toward even mentioning IIDB. Anyway, occasions for creating such threads would be far fewer here because if one feels compelled to complain openly about the actions of IIDB staff, there's a forum for doing so.

That the staff here is willing to tolerate these threads impresses me as a generous act.

Jobar

Ah, thank you both. I thought that might be the case.

We heathens seem to practice the fairness and humility that the good Christians at CF only preach, eh? :devil3:

stray bullet

I don't think it is very fair to generalize about the entire staff.

seebs

I wouldn't generalize that far. You once, in an official capacity, jumped into a thread where someone was insulting me and throwing straw men around, only to endorse his attacks and misrepresent my position once more.

I will say, that kind of thing is rather rarer here. On the other hand, CF's sheer size makes it hard to draw a fair comparison; I think CF probably has a comparable number of fair mods to IIDB, but not perhaps a comparable percentage.

I think this is largely because of the excessive precision of the dogmatism tests they use; IIDB will accept any competent moderator, pretty much. Even in the old days, when there was a "no theists" restriction, it was pretty broad. By contrast, CF will take, not just "Christians", but Christians who are at least fairly close to the party line on certain key issues. To make it more confusing, that's not exactly a formal rule, but in practice, enough mods will vote against anyone who holds an unpopular position to make it very hard to get such people in.

Worse yet, the positions they test for are strongly correlated with a kind of militant closed-mindedness that leaves many staff at CF simply unable to comprehend that there are genuinely different positions to be held on some issues.

Miss Shelby

Were you asked for a self edit first?

Michelle

copernicus

Hi, folks. I just had a fairly good run at CF--lots of interesting interaction with people. Unfortunately, I got into a discussion with radorth, who reported me for perceived personal attacks against him. The mods responded by asking me to self-edit, and I complied by removing or changing language that could be taken as the least bit offensive. I also offered to try to moderate my tone with radorth. Then I was suddenly suspended from the Apolgetics forum (until Dec. 7). I appealed through their formal appeals process, but the decision appeared to be rubber-stamped.

My feeling about CF is that the moderators are more trigger-happy than biased. That's not to say that they aren't biased, but I did have a pretty long run without any interference from them. Once a moderator makes a decision, however, fellow moderators seem to simply ignore appeals. I felt so frustrated by the experience, that I told them that I was making the suspension permanent. I suspected that the future would just hold more warnings and harrassment, now that they had me pegged as a "flamer" and a "troller". I don't really have the time or patience for that kind of treatment.

Ironically, I looked up radorth's last posts in II to see how he was treated. Apparently, he appealed to the mods here to intervene on his behalf when he felt personally attacked. When he didn't get his way, he left. He finally got his attention from the CF mods, but I think that they suspended him, as well. (At least, they told me that they had.)

I left CF voluntarily and with some regret. I had made some friends over there, and I was making an honest effort not to offend them. The main attraction for me was that I got quite a few different perspectives on how people justified their religious beliefs. I even saw one reluctant deconversion take place--the flowering of a skepticism. It's a wonderful thing to behold.