show_no_mercy

So someone says to me "If I define god as whatever makes planets, then god exists because planets exist"

I was thinking 'post hoc', but is that really what's going on here?

Naruto

Dunno the name for it, but tell him he's desperately trying to define god into existence.

Wait, don't planets form from cosmic dust that clumps together? (the S&S people would hang me for this oversimplification) Then that means that...gravity is god!

Bow down before god, as down is the way of god. God likes to go down.

Y.B

Yeah, that's "defining something into existence", don't know if there's a fancy name for it...

JWD

So simple tell me where the cosmic dust comes from that clumps together, please.

Quetzalcoatl

That would be stars.

Soul Invictus

I can try to see if there is a name for it...to be clear, what is it that you're driving at...the assumption that planets exist, that planets were "made" (that's a very loose way of articulating the existence of planets) or the person's self-referential definition of god's attribute (which isn't an objective and universally qualifiable definition)

JWD

So simple tell me where the stars come from.

Quetzalcoatl

A imply B being true does not mean that B implies A.

Hydrogen clumps due to gravity. After a certain mass it ignites by fusion to give stars.

Naruto

I'll continue with JWD's game:

Where does the hydrogen come from???!!!1

Quetzalcoatl

As the universe expands free protons capture an electron to form hydrogen. Sheesh Don’t all high school students know this ?