Thief of Time

Why don't you try working backwards from a number to get a sentance?
IE work back from Pi, and see what it gets, using the reverse transformations and same number-letter mapping. Thats generally the way you check if you've done something right.

SophistiCat

Or, to use integral fudge factors, we can obtain this:

(Book3, verse 663) All these his wondrous works, but chiefly Man,
Result * 10^-35 * 5 ~ 3.1416
(Book9, verse 17) Up into Heav'n from Paradise in hast
Result * 10^-21 * 8 ~ 3.1416
(Book9, verse 31) And easily approv'd; when the most High
Result * 10^-25 * 5 ~ 3.1415
(Book10, verse 1479) Let us descend now therefore from this top
Result * 10^-32 * 4 ~ 3.1416

Pmarra

I have used a very simple method to find Pi in Gen1.1

I have used values for letters used from over 4000 years

I have multiplied between them these values and I have divided the result with the product of the values of the words

I have finally multiplied the result for the number of the letters and I have divided with the number of the words



You have not used the same my technique in your examples

Probably if you use the same my technique applied to million of sentences you can find Pi in some sentence as I have found Pi in Gen1.1

You can probably find a value of Pi more precise than mine

But this your possible discovery is a confirmation of the extreme improbability to find Pi in every sentence however

reddish

Yes, I did. Please retract or substantiate.

Your technique calculates sum-of-letter-values divided by sum-of-word-values, after which you must divide by an arbitrary number in order to get close to Pi. Is this not true?

This is exactly what I did, too.

Here, let me quote the relevant section of your post #30 where you explain your method. I have highlighted the fudge factor stuff in red:

Dude, you found a silly calculation that gives you a number that is moderately close to Pi if you divide it by 25000000000000000. And then you find it silly that we don't quite share your sense of wonder....

I must ask: what color is the sky on your planet? :Cheeky:

Pmarra

in every phase of this discussion I have correctly pointed out that I have found a value of pi in Gen1.1 multiplied for 10e17

naturally this circumstance authorizes you to find a value of pi for instance multiplied for 10e40 or for 10e3 and so on

in this circumstance there is not any arbitrariness

you can do it when you want and I accept your result

reddish

Nope, you found the value 0,785388 (not Pi or something close to Pi) by (arbitrarily) dividing the value you got with 10^17. Try not to overstate your accomplishments (although that's a tall order).

What part of "division by 2.5e16 is an arbitrary operation" do you fail to understand?

You're pushing nonsense - get over it. If you still cannot see that your stuff has been thoroughly refuted by now, you are really beyond help.

Pmarra

if you read again my initial posts you can easily see that I have always proposed this technique to find Pi in Gen1.1

it is also clear to a child that my technique of search is not arbitrary and you can apply it to any sentence

then you apply this same technique to any sentence but without saying that it is an arbitrary technique

reddish

Whatever. I have only so much time to spend on debunking crap, so I'm bailing out. Have fun in your little world of mirrors.

Perhaps you should visit this forum and explain your ideas to its manager, Doron Shadmi. I bet you will get a much better reception over there.

CelticChic

This is one of the best threads I've read yet! I couldn't stop giggling :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:
I guess all those silly mathmatical 'proof' spam emails I get really mean something! Maybe I shall now change my name to my porn+star wars name and eat several pounds of chocolate every week, after all those numbers couldn't possibly lie!!

John A. Broussard

I agree. This thread should be in the humor section. I, for one, can't believe that Pmarra is serious. He's obviously putting us on.