aa5874

That is NOT so at all. gMark's Jesus has NO known birth, no known earthly father, no known childhood and is NOT known to have done anything at all in Nazareth before he was baptized by John.

Marcion's Son of God also had NO known birth, no known father, no known childhood and is claimed to have APPEARED like a man.

The author of the short gMark presented a Son of God LIKE the Son of man.

Jesus in gMark ACTED non-human and did the things that people of antiquity BELIEVED could have only been done by one who was God.

gMark's Jesus story does NOT end on the Cross, it ends when Jesus Resurrected.

1. Jesus WALKED on water in gMark.

2. Jesus Transfigured in gMark.

3. Jesus Resurrected in gMark.

4. Jesus was acknowledged as the Son of God in gMark.

The resurrection of gMark's Jesus was to show that the character was NOT human.

Your statement is erroneous. The author of gMARK NEVER identified John the Baptist as Elijah. In fact, in gMark it is claimed Elijah and Moses were PRESENT at the Transfiguration.

Please, we have been through this already. gMark UNDERSTOOD exactly what he wrote but you DON'T. You have claimed the Gospels are Bullshit Reenactments

gMark's Jesus was NON-HUMAN. He predicted his own death and resurrection.

Again, Elijah did NOT come as John the Baptist.

Please, Examine gMark--Even Jesus is believed to be John the Baptist or Elijah.

Mark 6 Mark 9.2-4 The gMark story is about the Rejection and Killing of the Son of the Most High God.

Mark 8:31 KJV Mark 16:6 KJV

Duvduv

Aa, if he had no birth so who is Mary in Mark chapters 3:31 and 6:3?

Duvduv

AA, and Jesus says here that Elijah already came. Then who is it and who comes after this unnamed Elijah figure?

aa5874

Well, just tell me how Jesus was born in gMark instead asking me.

The author of gMatthew used virtually 100% of the gMark Jesus story and clamed Jesus was born of a Ghost and Mary.

The author of gLuke appears to have FOUND out that it was "true" or based on "witnesses".

In antiquity, it was believed that the SPIRIT of God could FATHER a child.

Duvduv

Come on, AA. The Jesus of GMark is ostensibly the Son of Man figure and the Christ, which because of chapter 9 verses implies that this is the promised Davidic messiah because Jesus says Elijah has already come, and of course he only comes before the messiah.

And then this Jesus IS BORN as a human from a woman named Mary.

And it is most interesting that the gospel writer does not accept that the Elijah who comes is the same man as the one in the Book of Kings and not incarnated into someone else. I wonder where they got this novel interpretation that Elijah could come as someone else.

aa5874

Please read the short gMark and stop making unsubstantiated claims. You seem not to have any intention of actually reading what is IN gMark.

If Jesus was NOT God's Son in gMark then whose son was he??

Mark 1Mark 2Mark 3 Mark 5Mark 9Mark 14Mark 15 It is most remarkable that you seem not to want to understand gMark. Please, it is the gMark story that must be understood NOT what you imagine.

After the body of gMark's Jesus was buried the VISITORS thought they would see the body of a DEAD MAN but they gor the Shock of their LIVES.

Jesus was NOT really a dead man--He had RISEN.

It was the EMPTY TOMB that made the Visitors realized Jesus was TRULY the Son of God.

Mark 16.6 Jesus was born of a woman and a Ghost according to sources that used gMark. How many times must you be shown Matthew 1.18-20???

Again, why do you imagine your own birth of Jesus in gMark??? It is completely unnecessary.

Please, if gMark's Jesus was a man then it made no sense for the author to show that he did things that DEFIED the Laws of Gravity, buoyancy and the biology of the human anatomy.

It makes no sense that the Jesus cult of Christians and, Potential Converts who knew Jesus as a man, would have KNOWINGLY worshiped a Publicly KNOWN man as a God and refuse to worship other men as Gods when Jesus as a man could NOT have done anything at all as described in gMark.

In effect, a real publicly KNOWN Jesus as a man DESTROYS the gMark story.

Diogenes the Cynic

Because Jesus was dead. He needed a way for Jesus to be dead and still be the Messiah.

aa5874

In gMark, Jesus PROPHESIED to his disciples that he would RESURRECT.

gMark's Jesus would do what NO human Messiah could do: CONQUER DEATH.

No human Messiah can CONQUER death--only the Son of God and Messiah--gMark's Jesus.

Mark 8 Mark 9Mark 10 No human Messiah can Resurrect--gMark's Jesus the Son of God and Messiah CONQUERED DEATH.

Mark 16

Horatio Parker

The real question is what is reality.

Mark's Jesus is not empirical ie not physical and yet is real. How can that be?

Horatio Parker

Exactly. It's difficult to imagine Mark's Jesus when we are steeped in the other Gospels and Paul.

I tend to favor the Greek tragedy theory for Mark because of it's ambiguity. He doesn't come right and state things because he wants the reader to think about it.