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Old 03-07-2007, 02:17 AM   #11
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Non-fiction can also count as literature.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:34 AM   #12
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Anyone who has not read the Psalms in their original Hebrew misses out on some of the best poetry ever written.
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Old 03-07-2007, 03:49 AM   #13
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It's been my experience that so-called "great" literature is boring as all fuck.
That alone would qualify the Bible as great literature in spades.
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According to most encyclopedias(at least the one's I checked), literature is defined as something in writing. So basically, all texts, books etc. are literature, the Bible included.

From a personal view, I would qualify the Bible as great literature aka. fiction, since I have trouble finding any real facts in it, which is required in a non-fiction book.
The bible as literature question raises more questions. Are we talking about style or substance? Form or content? Is nonsense said well, enough to classify a written work as great? Great compared to what? Are impossible stories enhanced and validated because there is an interesting plot and characterization? I, for one, would just toss fiction peddled as fact into the nearest garbage can. The bible is only a cultural and historical curiosity. L. Ron Hubbard is just as good or bad as the case my be.
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Old 03-07-2007, 05:27 AM   #15
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Ok! I would rephrase my question as : Is the Bible a collection of great literary work? I cannot define what a great literature is to me. But when I see it , I know one. For example Shakespeare's Julius Caesar is good litearture. I am not fond of many of his other plays. The Iliad, Odyssey etc too constitute great literature.

So in popular opinion among the intellectual elite , or English literature connoiseurs, would parts of the Bible be considered as great literature.
If so, which parts of the bible?
It contains selected bits of good literature, but since its a collection you obviously can't judge the whole thing together.

The problem is putting it on a pedestal.

Reading bits from the Bible along side other works of the same time from the Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Babylonians, Chinese, etc., is fine, and I think that if one does that they find that most of what's in the Bible doesn't stack up against those writings.

Some of the stuff, from old and new, is okay literature I would say, and some even contains good ideas.
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:02 AM   #16
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Anyone who has not read the Psalms in their original Hebrew misses out on some of the best poetry ever written.
Some of the earlier Psalms sound like straight up Canaanite mythology (and basically are Canaanite myth, according to F.M. Cross and others).

I wouldn't miss it for anything. That YHWH fellow sure knows how to turn heads.
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:21 AM   #17
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Aside from the majority of time when God and the Hebrews were committing genocide, there is a lot of good Hebrew stuff because there were so many times when they were oppressed, and thus they have a lot of writings about justice, and fairness, and concern for the poor, and being the underdog, etc.

I view a lot of the ancient Hebrew stuff as similar to American blues, inspired by the oppression and slavery of the blacks in America. That type of oppression often leads to insightful and inspirational ideas, and I think that that's what we find in the "good parts" of Hebrew literature.
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I would definitely disagree with this.

I'll have you know that there is nothing else. Wisdom is knowledge retained and that is where art finds it beauty in all forms of expression. Hence, philosophy is the finest of fine arts.
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I'll have you know that there is nothing else. Wisdom is knowledge retained and that is where art finds it beauty in all forms of expression. Hence, philosophy is the finest of fine arts.
I believe that, in order for something to truly be called wisdom, it must have a level of both practical applicability and universality. Much of the content of both the Hebrew Bible and in emerging Christian doctrine lacked both of these--the Hebrews could not give up the mythological gods of their fathers; the Christians (early, at least) could not give up their hopes for the non-existent Day of Reckoning, when finally All was revealed in a flash of inexpressible Novelty and Finality.
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Considering that it has such an eminent, unerring author, the Holy Spirit it self, it certainly should be considered great literature.

Any flaw it might seem to posses, like the ceaseless, monotonous repetitions, the underdeveloped prose, the inconsistencies in plot structure, the incoherent wailings of the prophets, etc. etc. etc. should only be taken as examples that the Holy Spirit's literary talent is beyond comprehension by mere mortal minds.

Since blasphemy against the Holy Sprite is an unforgivable sin, I must warn ye all that daring to even consider applying any of the notions of literary criticism to a book of his authorship would surely earn you entrance in the dark pits of Sheol.
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