Larsguy47

Well, until Judgment Day or perhaps Armageddon you don't really have a confirmation. But the Bible says that it is and some people have faith that it is. Some won't. So it is interesting to see who trusts the Bible and who doesn't. Those who have trusted, obviously, have a confirmation of their faith now that the messiah has arrived.

Oh yes it will. Perception and relativity. For instance, a rich man dies and has given you a million dollars! You're ecstatic! You think he's the most wonderful man. You then wonder if he's done the same for other neighbors on your street. Indeed, people are jumping up and down in the street happy about their good fortune. You go out to join them and before long, you realize everybody on the block got 10 million dollars, compared to your one million. Does it bother you?

Ever hear of "closure"? When things are left uncertain people wonder about it and they can't get "closure", etc. Well that's what Judgment Day does. It allows those who held out for good to see those who are to be dead forever, never to come back, and it makes them even happier that they made the right choice. They are very, very, very happy they got $10 million.

Ever see any of those movies where the husband is cheating on the wife, he has a mistress with three or four babies by her. The wife knows it and puts up with it until one day she decides to tell him "It's over! I'm leaving you." She feels good about it and can't wait to drop the bomb on him. She's not going to be used any more. So she rushes home and waits for a while, he's not home at the usual time. She's starts to wonder when she notices a note left by him. She figures it's the usual excuse, he's staying "home late at the office," same old excuse. Only this time it's a little different. It says: "Sorry, I ain't coming back! IT'S OVER. I'm leaving you!"

Now is she happy and relieved? or is she angry? If she's resentful, it's not enough she got dumped by him, she wants the last word. She figures she'll go over to the house of the mistress and curse them both out. She's about to do that but can't because he's just had her car towed. She's really pissed now! She has the number, of course. So she picks up the phone to dial him up to curse both of them out and finds out the phone has been turned off.

I don't know WHY it's that way, but we've seen countless movies where two people are unhappy in a relationship but it's ever so important WHO broke up with WHOM? Who left whom?

So it's sort of like that. Those people who died think: "Ah haaaa, I left God! I didn't cost me anything." So God brings them back so he has the last laugh: "Ahhhha, everybody else gets life and wealth and happiness and you're the only one who threw the chance of a lifetime away. Then just as they are about to curse God, a train hits them (or a bus, or an airplane, or a tank... we're still working out the artistic details....).

LG47

Yellum Notnef

How dare you heathen scum speak to the Messiah like that!

Mr Messiah, I don't want to overstep my bounds with you for you shalt smite me, but have you thought about selling shit on Ebay while you await judgment day?
If you say who you are in your auctions I bet you'll make a pretty penny.
Just food for thought.

David B

Just as a matter of interest, Lars, apart from your presumably small band of followers, do you find that the non-believers treat you with more or less tolerance, and even sympathy, than the Christians?

David B

Larsguy47

You're right! Quite amazing. The non-believers are much more tolerant. Perhaps because they have no personal interpretations of their own they feel challenged by. Definitely noticed the difference! I prefer discussions with nonbelievers.

LG47

Larsguy47

Nice suggestion. BUT IF... I am who I say I am, and you follow Revelation, the secret societies supporting me are quite rich, so money is the least of my worries. I can't go into details because I don't want to give anything away, but if you have enough money, you can set up practically any scenario you want to control, far in advance.

Money alows for choices. The lack of money limits those choices, or so it appears. So being really poor is actually part of my "cover." People with money can be manipulated much more easily than someone who doesn't. People with limited funds eat out less, travel less, etc. If I need something though, it sort of just appears and I have the money I need.

Since you don't believe a word I'm saying anyway, I may as well enjoy the entire fantasy. Obviously, there has been more than one assasination attempt or just as well, some attempt to the next best thing, which is create a "reasonable cause" situation for a black man to get arrested and into the penal system, after which anything can happen. And believe me, they already have "Well mistakes will be made, etc." All they have to do is appear to have not been profiling or prejudice and the law lets them do all kinds of things. So basically, I'm in a very restricted and somewhat "monitored" situation.

I had to learn how to just not worry about "money", that is, the money down the road. So I've been just this side of "homeless" often. I had all my things in storage for a while and just lived out of that in motels. The motels were expensive but it worked, and I just had a mailbox for mail.

On the other hand, I'm the richest being in the universe save for God himself. I not only own the planet but every person on the planet, including you. That's why God set me up as the Messiah, in fact, because he knows that every person lost is a personal loss to me. Every person lost is a win for Satan.

Thus SALVATION comes through me via all my sins. My dealing with being gay and being transgendered and even being black and understanding what that's like in a white world, etc. makes me much more tolerant to those elements in the community whereas some might have little tolerance. If you're a former alcoholic or drug addict, you will hang in there for someone trying to overcome their addition, because you've been there! So a person who has gone through a lot and been forgiven a lot, is going to be extremely tolerant and forgiving of others. Thus more people will be forgiven under my rule than say if a monk used to self-sacrifice and denial all his life had to deal with former hoars and gays and thieves and everything.

Anyway, there are some men who are millionaires who out of boredom decide to live as a homeless person on the beach. Just because he eats out of garbage cans doesn't mean he's not rich. Poor by choice and poor by no-choice is all the difference in the world.

Now this isn't directly related to this but it does illustrate a point. One time I was running from the police who were part of a frame up. That is, I had this legal case against this powerful company who tried to set me up in a fake crime and I was running from them in another state. But I was under close surveillance as well because they believed I was armed and dangerous and didn't want anybody to get hurt, etc. Anyway, I was going from city to city and they always found me but I could always spot their agents. Finally when I got close to home, which was in a predominantly black area, I suddenly felt safe, because for once the system of prejudice was working in my favor since there wouldn't be enough undercover black agents to effectively monitor me; all those good police jobs went to whites for the most part. So the ghetto was safe.

So it's sort of like that. The powers to be have less choices to suspiciously introduce themselves into your life if you're dirt poor, not traveling much or going out that much.

Some goes for the FBI, obviously, they are noticing this claim. They have to. In fact, especially after the Virginia college murders by a mental case. They are going to watch for any signs of someone who is crazy or might snap. So I've been under surveillance for quite some time, some times more intensely than others. But as long as I don't have any public followers meeting with me, or giving me donations, there's no legal precedent to interfere with my claims of being the messiah! What is the FBI going to do? Take me to court and tell me to stop claiming to be the Messiah? To do that they have to pull out their Bibles and prove I'm not the Messiah and they can't do that, because I'm far more the Biblical expert, right? Separation of church and state. So I'm just under surveillance. To them, I'm potentially written off as a jokester just exercising his literary license and freedom of speech. That's on the surface.

But they have far too much evidence of the huge secret society involved that would believe I'm the messiah, and so they are far more interested in them and than me. They are hoping to get a lead on that. But it's next to impossible. My people send me messages over the television rather than directly. They are elaborately elusive, it's just amazing. Everything is covered. If some have to bow down to me (I don't know the specifics, maybe they just want to) they just create the opportunity and drop something they have to pick up in front of me. That's it.

It's SEAMLESS. Even if you're aware of it. For instance, I have this really, really good friend, from before I became the messiah. I told him what was going on with me and everything. Of course, he thinks I'm crazy or believes that I just believe and just ignores me. But once we were eating out and the cashier dropped the bill "accidentally" and had to pick it up. He was one of my followers so when we got outside I told my friend that that person felt a need to bow down to me and that's why he dropped the bill in front of me like that. Of course, my friend didn't believe it. Why should he? Because it just looked like someone dropped something. Now if he had gone back in and asked that person if I was the messiah or something, they would have pretended they didn't know what he was talking about, etc.

So I get to see my people all the time, but they are not obvious to others.

This is what I was saying about the wealth. If they know in advance that in ten years I'll move into a certain apartment, they will just buy a store nearby knowing I'll come in there a couple of times just so they can see me. But I also make it easier for them sometimes by gambling in public or performing on stage or just taking a walk down a busy main street where I'll pass hundreds of people who wait for that time to be on the street at that time just to pass me by, and a 100 agents can be looking and will never see anything.

But, of course, they know the secret societies exist, just like we know from the seeing eye pyramid on the dollar that Freemasons in high places exist.

These discussion boards are another example of the scam. You see some people think I'm here debating with these folks and everything, when really my own people are just getting information from me for themselves. They'll log on in a month or two when these posts are old and ended and find secret messages I've left them. Maybe hidden in some graph. Who knows?

:wave:

LG47

Larsguy47

Here's another example of why not having money works in my situation, even though I'm not really doing this now but in the past when there was more direct communication and the net wasn't here, you had to create situations where an invisible exchange of information could take place, and a great place for doing that was at the public laundromat. Now people who use public laundromats basically don't have their own at home. So that's once a week or so you will be with other annonymous people at the laundromat. What would happen is that after you put your clothes in the washer or dryer, you'd leave and go get a do-nut or something while your clothes were washing or drying, and they'd just slip an article of clothing in your wash, and a tag on the clothing would relate some secret message. Sometimes when I had to have direct instructions that was a place that was communicated because they would set up the specific laundromat that I would go to at a certain time and while I was sitting there waiting for the wash to finish, there would be two ladies talking with each other, but quite loudly so that I could hear their conversation. So in the course of their talking, of course, they'd mention the date, time and location of where I had to go next.

Woman: "Oh yeah! I have this appointment tomorrow at the doctor's. It's at the Fox Hills Mall. There's this little antique book store there that always has lots of items on sale on Tuesdays between 3 and 5 p.m. I'm going to see if they have something for my daughter's birthday.....", etc.

Another ploy, for research, was just to leave specialized books for me, really RARE books at some selected used book store. I'd go there, the books would be on sale, and I'd purchase them. I'd read the books, make my comments and either leave the book somewhere or they'd obtain the book, copy the material and return it to me. One time I had information for them that I left in my car while I was at the movies and they just broke into the car and stole it. No biggee.

So being poor or pretending to be poor affords you more veiled communication opportunities, sometimes.

LG47

Koyaanisqatsi

Doubtful, but ok...

Wow. That's two powerful actions then, at least. And to be able to countermand God like that? Incredible. Imagine Satan being able to do something God didn't already know was going to happen. C'est incredible.

Right! Because why, exactly...?

Sing it sister!

Oh. You're wasting our time. Pretending to be a theist.

Gee. What irony.



Have fun with that and when you're done, maybe you'd like to actually discuss something more tangible.

Spherical Time

Sorry, I haven't been paying as close attention as I should to this, but it appears to have degenerated into personal comments.

Address the arguments, not the poster. Period.

Otherwise, I will have no choice but to close this thread.

Spherical Time
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spamandham

Yah sure. Your complete misinterpretation of graphs is really a secret message for your imaginary followers. It's so secret, even you don't know what it means.

Koyaanisqatsi

And when the poster makes the argument all about himself? What then?