Chris Weimer

You ought to try somehow. You're really missing out. I think I still have your email address...

Sent.

~M~

including this principle?

Chris Weimer

Yes. Including that principle.

~M~

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Typically, anyhow. there is the odd accidental firing.



there are reasonable individuals who kill under the bosom of their religious dogma. To ignore religion as a variable is just stupid.

tecoyah

And there....we see the eventual end run of debate with the devout.

Its all about belief...nothing else matters when it comes down to it.

Chris Weimer

If they kill for their religious dogma, then they're not very reasonable, are they? People kill for all sorts of reasons, and those reasons will never go away. Focusing on just one, religion, is not going to ameliorate the situation in any way. As long as there is land, people will fight over it.

I'm not ignoring religion - I think it needs to be dealt with, and not just wished away.

Chris Weimer

There's not one religious person posting in the last 25 replies (at least, I didn't check any further).

Dreadnought

So what about you Mr Weimer. You seem very sure of the historicity of Jesus. So much so that you display a remarkable hostility for an atheist over the issue and I can easily understand those that mistake you for a christian.

Are you sure Jesus was historical?
If so, what makes you sure?
(Brief version here please, no doubt you've answered this question many times.)

tecoyah

And that nullifies my statement....because...uh....?

Chris Weimer

100% certain? Absolutely not. Echoing another user from E/C, proof is for mathematics and alcohol.

I look at the gospels like I look at every other ancient document. Why is this person mentioned? What role do they play? What is the precedent? It's a mixture of attestation, genre, source criticism, and an understanding of the culture which born Jesus. I think the evidence favors in his existence, not in his non existence.