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Old 04-28-2004, 09:29 AM   #11
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Dilandau, I find your description of the algorithm confusing. Can we look at the Java code?
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Confusing why? This is important to know for me. It's incredibly easy. The Java code won't be a favor here an i am holding a patent on it/the method. but imagine a spoked wheel that has 511 spokes. one spoke is thrice 26 wordplaces long. a verse is up to 26 words long. first verse of genesis has 7 words. write these words onto the first seven (out of thrice 26) wordplaces of the first spoke. direction: from in to out. next verse words go onto spoke 2. verse 511's words go onto spoke 511. but verse 512's words go onto spoke 1 again, but the next higher 26 wordplaces are used. and so on. this three-rings system is the only variant of the hitomi-method, that displays pictures (in my eyes). though the method can be extended to five or more rings. or the startverse, now allways genesis 1.1 can be varied. Even an interval could be used (now zero, just any subseqential verse is drawn). Also the 511 spokes can be changed to an other ammount. The planetary cycles of the torah, which i have discovered, and also some other features clue, that there may be yet undiscovered pictures, maybe in the genesis also or in the upper regions of the torah. now i am drawing the genesis only as there have been the only useable results. but the methods of gematria that i use now are not everything. there is a method called atbash and similar, where certain letters are exchanged. Therefore I have made the program available for everybody to use online, with parameters adjustable. It's a testversion now. Not everything works. http://otaku.onlinehome.de/hitomitest.html
for background info on the used torah http://otaku.onlinehome.de/scrolls/ (as one can get from the html code of the testpage) may be essential.
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Sniff, sniff. What's that strange smell in the air? Why, it's the scent of a thread soon to be sent ~Elsewhere~.
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Richard Feynman was once asked by a Caltech faculty member to explain why spin one-half particles obey Fermi Dirac statistics. Rising to the challenge, he said, "I'll prepare a freshman lecture on it." But a few days later he told the faculty member, "You know, I couldn't do it. I couldn't reduce it to the freshman level. That means we really don't understand it."

And I'm being generous here, assuming there's something to try and communicate. Short of some numerical/graphical manipulation to get...something...what's the point? Maybe we're all idiots...or maybe you're not making your point very clear.

It should tell you something when both those who are openly trying to understand your idea, and those who are ready to debunk it, both say..."Huh??"
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This has not elicited any suitable Biblical discussion, so it will have to join its friends in ~Elsewhere~
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This has not elicited any suitable Biblical discussion, so it will have to join its friends in ~Elsewhere~
I'd be more proud of calling it, but it was too easy...
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From my point of view i explained the method precisely, at least within this thread. If there is still a language barrier a problem, that can be mastered. As annother proof, that the Church may be aware of the torah secrets, see this pic:



It's the top side of a bible and it shows three concentric rings with a lot of dots set. just like the design of the Hitomi pictures.

The most similar Hitomi-Picture is perhaps (showing the distribution of the word "ThusSpokeTheLord"):



Some gematruc values are distributed like figures:





These Pictures shall NOT be a proof for (a) God but a proof for that the torah is

- man-made
- from one hand or team of man
- made with secret intent that is beyond the theatre of religion
- church knows what it lies about


Hitomi Myths and Facts



1: Doesn't it work with any book?
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Since the Biblecode people have found out, that 'secret words' can be found in any book, making the Biblecode very unspecial. The Hitomi-Function is based on strict and traditional features of the hebrew alfabet. While Biblecode allows a practically unlimited number of variants, Hitomi-Function allows only about 1000 variants. The most possible variants of these 1000 do not show any significant picture. Certain variants of the little rest, that do show pictures, are those which involve numbers, that are pertinent, i.e. 666. Any of the few working values plays a clear role in the Torah-Cosmos. It is yet unproven that relevant or relevant looking pictures can be made from an other text than from the Torah. Maybe other ancient texts do also contain pictures, which are ciphered by a similar method. Maybe relevant looking pictures can be made from any text by a similar method, but there is going to be allways the difference between true relevance (like in the case of the Torah for example) and relevant looking.

2: So many stars! For sure some match to scattered dots.
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Interestingly the two star-signs that showed up with Hitomi-Function, are those which have been the most relevant star-signs around 3000 BC, Even today Orion is the major star-sign of the heavens, not only for the jews.

3: Getting star maps from the Bible is wrong.
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Especially religious people state, that Hitomi-Function can never be true because it is opposed to what the Torah writes. However, the Torah writes a lot of times opposed to itself. The Torah is neither-nor true or fals and both, just like the example of Zen: "This is a lie. The previous sentence and this sentence is a lie." Especially religious people are dumbfolded by their beliefs and have not understood the Torah properly as I did. Allmost everybody who appreciates the Torah, does nothing else than worship the packing. The gold however is not without the inside, that is the Torah-Cosmos and the Hitomi-Records.
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It's the top side of a bible and it shows three concentric rings with a lot of dots set. just like the design of the Hitomi pictures.
That is the Chi Rho. It supposedly appeared to Constantine in a dream before his battle with Maxentius at the Milvian Bridge in 312. It represents the name of Christ with an X (chi) and a P (rho).

And yes, in this representation it is set in a circle with dots around it. Not unlike a dartboard.

I still don't get it.
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That was a dream? Actually the X marks the four directions one can travel on the ground and with the P it's the spatial six directions. The sign is a remnant from hermetic sciences of geodetics and astronomy. I have seen old paintings in churches, that have the zodiac around the XP and similar. "Windows XP huhhh". If the XP from Windows XP does not mean Christ, the XP from the sign can also have a different meaning, but then was utilised and coined anew by the church.

"I still can't get it" is no effective question. Effective questions must contain focus.
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"I still can't get it" is no effective question. Effective questions must contain focus.
Questions can be recognized by the interrogation mark, often rendered: "?"
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