MysticTraveler

God therefore said once more, in His ever initiative to overflow, “let Me create a universal array, from a material footstool to a spiritual summit.” Hence He created the heavens and the earth. The nature of reality is supremely cosmic, containing layers upon infinite layers of complexity and beauty. Hence did God create the cosmic array: from His Initiative, to energy, to sub-atomic particles, to elements, to molecules, to simple life, to animal, to self-conscious animal (man, having therefore a spiritual aspect in virtue of self-consciousness), to angels of various orders and dimensions, and He at the summit of all. Essential to God’s own dynamic is Love, and essential to Love is that greatest value in all of reality—Free Will. Un-free initiative can never attain to Love, thence the inseparability of Free Will in the nature of all created beings. For as Father and Son are united in the Spirit of Love, thus is all Creation destined, made for, and meant to partake in the great Divine Love Affair.

everettf

You are preaching, please don't

MysticTraveler

Think of it this way, I am attempting to present a spiritual thing, a mystical thing, which in virtue of its intrinsic nature, cannot be supplied "evidence" for in the normal way-- because it is not subject to normal reasoning, shaped by the nature of our material world. What I am therefore doing, in the end, is presenting a vision, nevertheless within your capabilities, if you would simply suspend disbelief for a moment.

This is all I can do, and nothing more. If you can't bear my presentation, then by all means, avert your eyes...

Signed,

An Apologetic Mystic

Sarpedon

Moving to ~E~ from EoG

everettf

Don't. If you want to discuss anything go ahead but preaching is not allowed. If you want to preach try a christian or islamic board. Do your preaching there.

MysticTraveler

[QUOTE=everettf;4698910]On the one hand you say I can discuss anything yet on the other you say I can't preach. I am presenting a vision to open up discussion. Why are a number of people irrationally trying to squash me in every turn? I think it has something to do with some irrational hatred of anything whatsoever dealing with the higher dimension of human experiencing.

Disagree with me by all means but please be kind enough not to try and silence me here. What I'm stying here is precisely a presentation of existent God.

Paul2

You say you are presenting a vision to open up discussion, yet you're not discussing anything. You're stating what you believe in, asking us to "suspend [our] disbelief" and expecting us to accept what you say based on no evidence.

Sorry, but I know bullshit when I see it. So do most of the people here.

Alethias

I say you are preaching. You say you are presenting a vision to open up discussion. I'll pick apart your OP piece by piece, and we'll see how willing to discuss you are. You haven't even clearly shown any god or gods exist! And you are claimin some god actually said something?? O really? please provide documentation that some god somewhere somehow said this. In other words, post proof or retract. O did you just envision a god saying that?What does this mean? What is the difference between cosmic and supremely cosmic? What does cosmic mean in this context?I agree, but it has nothing to do with any god or gods, so it's irrelevant to a discussion of the existence of gods.All of those are exciting claims but with zero substantiation. How do you know love is essential to a god's dynamic if you can't even provide any evidence of the existence of that god, for example?

This is why it appears to be preaching with no intent to discuss. You make a whole long series of declarations, and you haven't even established the first half of the first sentence. It's kinda futile for me to challenge your conclusions if your premises are flawed. That pretty much shuts down rational discussion, in my opinion.

O well.

Mace

Look, I'm sorry, but this just isn't cutting it.

What's your plot? You have nothing leading up to a climax. Your characters are horribly static.

Maybe you could take a creative writing class? I don't know, try again and repost your story.

RAFH

Gonad heretofore uttered twice more, in His Ever Urgent Urgency to Overflow, “let Us create a universal disarray, from a maternal toadstool to a summary spurt on the summit.” Whence He co-opted the high and mighty star-rivenHeavens and the mouldering, mungy Earth and the flaming, smoking, stinking, horrible and unendingly ghastly and ghoulishly noxious Hell below, filled with failed standup comedian and their even worse writers. The natural realness of reality is supremely cosmic and overwhelmingly supreme, infinitely containing infinite layers upon infinite layers of infinitely infinite complexity and infinite beauty. Thence did Gonad create the cosmic disarray: from His Initiatial Spurt, to His Infinite Energy, to His Sub-sub-sub-atomic Particulatenesses, to His Elemental Elementary Elements, to His Mongo Molecules, to His Complexly Smple Life, to His Feral Animalness, to His Self-Conscious Animalness (man, having therefore found such Spiritual Aspect in Virtual Reality of Self-Consciousness, I am running out of words), to His Angelic Self-Loathing of His Various and Sundry Orders and Dimensions, and He at His Summit of Allness. Essential to Gonad’s Own Dynamic Self-Love, and Essential to His Love is that His Greatest Value in all of Big Box Reality—Free. Un-Free initially can never attain to His Love, whence His inseparability of Free and Naked is His Nature and His Improbable Attraction to all created Beings, being as His Being created their Benign and Beneficial Beingness. For as Father and Son are united in the Spurt of Love, thus is all Creation destined, made for, and meant to partake in the great Divine Love Affair.