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Old 08-26-2009, 07:45 AM   #31
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God will become personally involved with mankind when Israel recognizes her King. Until then we must hope in faith.
Wait, wait, wait.
Jesus didn't fulfill the prophecies for the Jewish Messiah, which is why the Jews don't accept him. Christains say that all the unfillfuled ones will be fillfulled when Jesus comes BACK.
Now you're saying that God won't come back until the Jews accept Jesus...which they won't do until He does the stuff He was supposed to, which won't be until He comes back...which He won't do until they accept Him...




Of course He did but they missed it. Harmonising scripture is the Key to understanding prophecy.


1Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.




20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.




3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4And *his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives*, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.





27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28And when these things begin to come to pass (all nations attacking Jerusalem), then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.




The Messiah in both the OT and NT comes at the end of the World's siege against Israel. Israel will recognize Jesus as Messiah as predicted:




*10And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.*

11In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

12And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;

13The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;

14All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:05 AM   #32
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Now, when this person dies and finds out Jesus is real, why should Jesus let this joker into Heaven?
Because a Heavenly Father loves his children, even when they are sinful. The same way a moral lifeguard would still save a drowning swimmer even if that swimmer had previously joked about or insulted the guard. Soldiers fight to protect the freedoms of people who are anti-military. Police provide protection even to those who hate cops.

Which is more important to your God--the lives of his children that he loves, or his ego?
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