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Old 10-21-2003, 06:53 PM   #41
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Why shouldn't we assume all that? Even the Bible doesn't mention that the composition of the earth was any different then than it is today.

How many long strings of totally unsubstantiated EXTRA-BIBLICAL assertions are you going to make, Mr. "No Really, I Believe in Sola Scriptura 100%"??
The Bible does say God commanded the waters to receed. He raised the mountains, and lowered the ocean basins and land valleys. It says God established borders that the waters don't pass to ever again flood the earth ( lakes, seas, oceans, bays ).
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Given that the Wyoming required iron banding to simply mainain its hull integrity and it still required constant pumping to counter the leaks, I think we're on fairly solid ground in saying that a ~450 foot long Ark wouldn't be seaworthy on a flat sea unloaded. Care to comment Magus, it's a fairly simple question of shipbuilding?
Who designs todays ships? Humans. Who designed Noah's ship? God. I think God is quite capable of creating a ship that can remain seaworthy. Especially considering He gave Noah 120 years to do it. Have you seen on the discovering channel they are trying to design the plans for a "city" on water? Its essentially New York on the largest flat ship ever built. Other than a few problems here and there, and the incredible expense ( multi-billions of dollars) - architects and designers believe it could be sea worthy. It was completely flat, and was longer, wider, and heavier than any ship ever designed before. And they don't even have God's help in building it. Noah's ark is not that inconceivable when being guided by a supreme intelligence.
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*points up* Translation: goddidit.
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Old 10-21-2003, 07:18 PM   #44
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*points up* Translation: goddidit.
And whats wrong with that? If God did it, then He did it. Just because you can't extend your mind beyond your little box of naturalism, doesn't mean the supernatural can't or doesn't exist.
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Who designs todays ships? Humans. Who designed Noah's ship? God. I think God is quite capable of creating a ship that can remain seaworthy. ... And they don't even have God's help in building it. Noah's ark is not that inconceivable when being guided by a supreme intelligence.
Ah sweet mother of pearl. It is not a design issue it is a materials issue. You can't build something that size out of wood and make it sea worthy.
Once again Magus you are making yourself ignorant of the facts on purpose. Noah's Ark built to the specifications in the OT would break up and sink.

Just like every other story in Genesis Noah's gives checkable facts. When we check them we find that they are wrong. Why do you cling to a story that demands that you suspend your intelligence?
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Old 10-21-2003, 07:28 PM   #46
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The Bible does say God commanded the waters to receed. He raised the mountains, and lowered the ocean basins and land valleys. It says God established borders that the waters don't pass to ever again flood the earth ( lakes, seas, oceans, bays ).
Where does it say that YHWH "raised the mountains...lowered the ocean basins and land valleys...[and] established borders that the waters don't pass to ever again flood the earth"?

I don't recall any part of the story making these claims. Perhaps you could provide some references.
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Old 10-21-2003, 07:32 PM   #47
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And whats wrong with that? If God did it, then He did it. Just because you can't extend your mind beyond your little box of naturalism, doesn't mean the supernatural can't or doesn't exist.
You can't rationalize th story of noah's ark without tossing the apologetic spin "goddidit" in, because that's just it: It's just a story. It's impossible. Besides, where in the bible does it say god had an active part in the construction of it? i mean, besides the whole cubits thing. Or are you just adding stuff to make your story better? Just because you can't open your mind beyond your litte box of christianity...
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Where does it say that YHWH "raised the mountains...lowered the ocean basins and land valleys...[and] established borders that the waters don't pass to ever again flood the earth"?

I don't recall any part of the story making these claims. Perhaps you could provide some references.
I just reread the Noah fairy tale and damned if I can find it. Maybe it's just not in the KJV. Sure is nice to know that floods don't happen.
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Ah sweet mother of pearl. It is not a design issue it is a materials issue. You can't build something that size out of wood and make it sea worthy.
Once again Magus you are making yourself ignorant of the facts on purpose. Noah's Ark built to the specifications in the OT would break up and sink.

Just like every other story in Genesis Noah's gives checkable facts. When we check them we find that they are wrong. Why do you cling to a story that demands that you suspend your intelligence?
Because it doesn't demand I suspend my intelligence, only accept that there is a supernatural aspect to it also. If you don't like my opinions and beliefs, how about you butt out? Especially since I don't particularly care what you think about them.
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Where does it say that YHWH "raised the mountains...lowered the ocean basins and land valleys...[and] established borders that the waters don't pass to ever again flood the earth"?

I don't recall any part of the story making these claims. Perhaps you could provide some references.
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