Roger Pearse

So I believe. But I think that you have missed the point in your eagerness to repeat this stuff -- since I don't believe that you have any first hand knowledge on this topic, any more than I do. This was that such claims need to be made explicitly, not simply presumed.

If you tell me that there is explicit proof that such beings as the ante-diluvians could not have existed, it would be interesting to see it.

<smile> The willingness of atheists to parrot nonsense has always amused me. Precisely how any of this weird but obviously second-hand rhetoric relates to my post you do not explain.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

Roger Pearse

I'm afraid that I simply can't get a grip on this thread, as it seems over the last 36 hours to have spiralled off into stock-rhetoric. So I think it's now done, which is annoying as there was some interesting stuff on sars and ners to be explored.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

The Evil One

You were the only person who thought there was anything to discuss there - so far as I can tell no one else has had issues with the standard interpretation of Sumerian base-60 counting. But as I pointed out, you are at liberty to explore these issues yourself if you wish - it is, as our American friends might remark, a free thread. If anything pertinent to the debate comes up as a result I'm sure people will respond.

What you aren't going to get is other people stopping debating the OP to debate the alternative topic of your choice without any prior input from you.

Dave Hawkins

Roger, don't get discouraged. You will always have the nonsense to deal with. I believe that there is just no way that the mods will ever keep all the detractors and rule breakers in line. I think the only thing that can be done about this kind of thing is for the good posters to be very diligent about reporting such nonsense. The mods can't possibly keep up with it without our help.

Dave Hawkins

First, let me say that the fact that Josephus lists 11 sources that agree on the ~1000 year thing is in itself good literary evidence that this may have actually occurred. Yes, we should read his sources if we can, but as you have pointed out, many of them are not available now. But does this mean that we automatically assume that Josephus just made this up? Of course not. Maybe he did, but the likelihood seems low.

Secondly, you place a high value on physical evidence. Good. I do too. And guess what. There is massive physical evidence available that the Flood did indeed occur, and that it was global in it's scope. You simply do not get 1-2 miles of water-laid sedimentary rock complete with catastrophically buried fossils all over the earth with local floods and other minor catastrophes. Sorry, but this is one of the most nonsensical institutionalized fairy tales ever to entrench itself in academia.

So ... once you get past the "There Was No Global Flood" myth ... now you are in a position to do some real thinking. For example, you realize that the pre-Flood earth must have been very different. The climate must have been very different. The atmospheric pressure may have been different. What else may have been different? We don't know, but let's do some experiments and see what we can learn.

WHERE ARE WE IN RESEARCH ABOUT AGING?
Here's an interesting article in a recent Nature issue ... Let's keep researching. We may yet find the Fountain of Youth and if we do, and it turns out to be some environmental factors that existed before the Flood, then there will some Biblical skeptics who will be eating generous helpings of crow.

deadman_932

Why do you keep repeating this when you cannot show it is true ? Others are after you to point to the 2 miles of sediments in Egypt, I have told you that the vast shield areas generally near the interiors of continents have NO such sediments. These are enormous areas.
When you are pressed to provide actual physical evidence for your claims, you run, inevitably, Davey. This leads me to believe that you are simply incapable of providing said evidence

deadman_932

How is it that fossil assemblages are not jumbled up, Dave? Don't point to your mantra of "hydrodynamic sorting and running animals" since you have been shown multiple times neither *cough* holds water. Why do carbonates appear BELOW heavier sediments or eolian strata or conglomerates? Why can't you tell me why the Coconino has spider tracks? Why can't you say why the Barringer meteor goes right into the toroweap and coconino? Why can't you acknowledge that you have never shown radiometric dating of ANY kind to be wrong? Why do you have to dance and avoid and pretend?

deadman_932

Long ago, I asked you to provide me with ONE modern mammal in the Morrison formation, Dave. That was nearly a year ago. You claimed then that you'd "research that" So what's the hold up? Why are there no modern mammals in ALL strata, Dave? No cambrian rabbits at all. None in the Mesozoic. Zilch. None in the Silurian, pennsylvanian, ordovician, mississipian, permian?

mitschlag

Let's cut to the chase: please provide physical evidence that humans have ever lived longer than 150 years.

Physical evidence does not include hearsay (such as the Josephus reference) or speculation about imaginary possibilities.

In the absence of evidence, the claim is unwarranted and we can move on to more interesting topics.

deadman_932

You know what's telling, Davey? You have a thread here on "global flood strata" waiting for you to address the questions in it.

You have multiple threads at Dawkins' on the "global flood" and other topics that you REFUSE to address questions in.

And now you're just making the same blanket assertions that you will NEVER provide genuine evidence for