Vorkosigan

I like the Peter and sharing the fish thing. The girl in Mk 5 is Jesus himself -- the Synoguge ruler is Joseph of Arimathea, and the whole thing is a reference to the death and rising of Jesus. The girl eats, to prove she is not a ghost. Something like that must have happened at the end of Mark. Something like


But the twelve were weeping and sorrowful, and as it was the final day of the passover feast, each one departed to his home.

But Peter, Andrew, and James were fishing, when Jesus appeared along the Sea of Galilee.

And they were afraid.

And Jesus asked: "Why do you fear? Haul up your nets!" he commanded.

And they hauled up their nets. And the catch was great.

Immediately the made a fire, and Jesus sat with them. And they wondered that he was not a ghost.

And he ate of the catch, saying "Behold, I shall send for many fishers, and they shall fish of the whole world."

And they went out from Galilee, even unto every land, to proclaim the way.

Vorkosigan

Are you sure "invented" is the right word? What about "Jesus died and appeared to his followers in visions." That leaves out nefarious motives while explaining why people thought he might have risen. After all, visions of the newly dead are a common experience of human beings.

Clouseau

Decide for yourself:

'Evidently, Jesus walking/talking/eating after his death, was designed to "wow" the largest believer mass, with the mystery managed by the church.'

First I heard of it.

Clouseau

Why do Bible translations always have to be into 17th century English?

wordy

It is very common. some say that it is more common among woman than among men. Could be some 10 to 20% having such experiences. I didn't but I am very odd in other ways too. Socially not competent and such. Bad at mirroring others feelings. I freezes instead of mirroring, go into a kind of pre-catatonic bodily posture while others pace or movement for movement mirror the others emotional expressions.

But there are men experiencing it too. Could have to do with differences in being able to mirror another persons feelings. Many say that statistically woman are a bit better at mirroring the bodily movements and facial expression and tone in voice expressing feelings and that is my impression too. There is always exceptions to statistics though. woman that totally fail to mirror others feelings.

To be able "to be" the other, theory of mind is maybe a talent that some woman are better at. Simon Baron Cohen in England say the male brain is kind of specialized to be analytical and that goes not so well with being good at mirroring others feelings. The more analytical the more detached you tend to be. There are more Nerds among men then among woman.

Then follows that maybe 10% more woman would report that they have some kind of "visits" by their dead parents or dead husband the first month after their deaths.

I wonder about your questioning that somebody dead could inspire after his death. Are you nitpicking. Doing grammar error damage control?

It is a perspective thing. We say the Sun goes up but in reality it is the Earth turning. But that is not what we say, do we.

So to say that Jesus still inspire people is grammatically and logically a similar perspective. It should be read. Live persons read stories about somebody giving examples on how to live and those live persons gets motivated by their interpretation of those stories about the dead or imagined person to act in similar way.

Even Richard Dawkins has several times in interviews stated that Jesus was a good moral leader but with other words I fail to remember now. Yes, very surprising but he get's the grammar correct most likely. Jesus being stone dead but still makes Dawkins say nice words about Jesus as if he was alive now in our minds. One don't have to be a historical person either to inspire people. Roddenberry and all the other writers inspire people when they tell moral stories so it is the stories themselves through interpretation that inspires people. Einstein inspires people and he is dead too.

Is this a cultural difference or what. I mean some say the Moon is a she and the Sun is a he and others that Sun is a she and the Moon is a he. La Luna and Man in the Moon and such cultural differences?

Doesn't dead authors books and the imagined persons in those books inspire live persons now. What are you trying to say here?

couch_sloth

Couldn't 16:8 just be where Mark ends? (as it was originally written)

Clouseau

That's my view. See post #5.

Amaleq13

A "dead man alive" is quite clearly a paradox whether you are capable of recognizing the match with the provided definition or not. It might help you to understand if you avoid switching around the words Solo wrote (ie "alive man dead").

Directly? Nothing but, just as obviously, the influence of a man need not end with the death of the man. You'll learn about that when you get around to studying various inspirational individuals throughout history.

No. I'm of the "teach a man to fish" school so I think you'll be better off doing your own research. Besides, I'm having a really hard time believing that your questions are genuine. Unless, of course, you are a very young child with precocious typing skills.

wordy

Clouseau say he or she has this view
that could explain why C ask such surprising questions. Sarte and Camus was also Existentialists and they too asked very surprising questions. Maybe goes with the territory. we get easily trapped within the world views we embrace. I'm deeply within naturalism i guess but another person here in II who also claim him to be a naturalist and have opinions almost opposite of me so me not sure anymore what to name my view.

Humane Empathic Philosophic Physicalist? HEPP

Amaleq13

I don't consider them "surprising" so much as simplistic and seemingly significantly uninformed.