JPD

Richard Dawkins - Monday 9th January - 8pm - Channel 4

http://www.channel4.com/listings/C4/...6&startHour=29

Quote: "The God Delusion
Professor Richard Dawkins, Chair of the Public Understanding of Science at Oxford and world-renowned evolutionary biologist, is no stranger to controversy. In this contentious two-part series, Dawkins decribes God as the most unpleasant fictional character of all and launches a wholehearted attack on religion as the cause for much of the pain and suffering in the world."

Should be very interesting.

nixon

Where is this channel 4 located?

Agemegos

Britain.

nixon

bummer! I'm not in Britain.

Ravear

Record it and torrent it

Stumpjumper

What Mr. Dawkins seems to forget is that, regardless if God is a fictional character or not, it is people who are causing, and have caused, pain, suffering, and death upon other people. No God required and for many of the perpetrators God was not a motivating factor.

Have Christians killed other Christians because of very slight differences of beliefs? Yes, and the 30 years war would have told you that without the brilliance of Richard Dawkins. Have Muslims killed Christians, Hindus killed Muslims, and random people killed random people in the name of some higher truth or power: yes.

Does demonizing belief in a higher power, force, entity, or purpose behind the universe do *anything* to further world peace?

Stumpjumper

Maybe Dawkins should realize that it is fundamentalism, in ALL its forms, that are the threats of the future and possibly the root of all evils.

Instead of complaining about what has caused deaths in the present and the past, maybe preparing for the future is a better option: http://www.cpwr.org/who/who.htm

His Noodly Appendage

The thing is, religion is a wedge. It's like an internet worm that will subvert the host's security in any way necessary in order to spread, regardless of the consequences.

Hell, just about any meme will evolve into this, once it gets a foothold - either that, or eventually get overpowered by one that will. Just exactly the same as the way that unscrupulous, dirty politics will always rise to the top, and for the same reasons.

Power accretes, at every level. There's not much you can do to prevent this, but killing off the powerful ones can at least keep the effects from getting too huge.

Ravear

Yeah i got a question. How many times do you have to be told atheism isn't a religion before you understand?

Stumpjumper

I understand quite well but there are still fundamental secularists. Some call them militants but they are fundamentalists as well and Dawkins would easily be considered one.