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Old 12-21-2004, 12:10 PM   #21
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Go the extra step. Do it in an elementary playground.

If you're going to kill yourself because you're dying painfully at least go out with a remarkable and rememberable bang.
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Old 12-21-2004, 12:13 PM   #22
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And with that, Gooch's dad waves his magic wand and sends the thread off to ~Elsewhere~
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Old 12-21-2004, 12:50 PM   #23
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Better yet, they should all drive up to NYC from their various locations around the country, claim they are overly distraught about the reelection of the Shrub, and blast their brains out all over Ground Zero with a 12-gauge.

oh wait...someone's already done that and it didn't make a damn bit of difference. Carry on as you were...
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Old 12-21-2004, 02:28 PM   #24
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Well... I guess technically if one is so dead-set on killing themselves (el oh el), one could get away with quite a bit before painting the walls with their brains. For example, you could stick up a bank, take everyone hostage, pretend to panic when the cops come, go through the motions of executing a hostage but instead of shooting them as they're kneeling sobbing hysterically, just announce "Hay guys it's just a joke I'm actually dying but nobody will let me die in peace" and then shoot yourself.

Bonus points for splattering your hostage with pieces of you.

Oh, the posibilities are endless. Looks like my evening has been booked solid.


Edit: Holy shit, idea:

Underground Euthanasia Olympics

Think about it.

Get a bunch of people who want to die and herd them all together in an abandonned warehouse or something, somewhere the "moral do-gooders" who want to live your life for you because they hate fun (and freedom, nevar forget) won't bother you. Then you can stage various events of killing themselves in the most hilarious and creative ways possible, with judges! Pole vaulting out the eighth story window! Razorblade pie eating contest! Shoot yourself the most times before bleeding to death or accidently hitting that vital organ!

For the wheelchair-ridden, Deathrace 2000 style crashes or jumps through the Ring of Fire and Rusty Serated Knives Which Are Also on Fire.

Stick 20 people in a room that contains a paperclip, a ballpoint pen, half a stick of gum and an elastic and go for MacGuiver-style euthanasias. Vote on the most creative! Broadcast it all!

Because that's the only way the message will get across that "I want to die in peace" to all those evil doctors and judges and other jerks.
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Old 12-21-2004, 03:30 PM   #25
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In all seriousness, I really do believe that the euthanasia issue is unique with respect to how much "shockingness" is required to effect change-- people simply do not want to think or talk about death. Death, especially in American culture, is something that's really swept under the rug, so honestly, I don't see any headway being made for euthanasia by any conventional means, although my suggestion that people kill themselves may be a little extreme.
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Old 12-21-2004, 03:45 PM   #26
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Everybody gets fucking shot!
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Old 12-21-2004, 04:15 PM   #27
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In all seriousness, I really do believe that the euthanasia issue is unique with respect to how much "shockingness" is required to effect change-- people simply do not want to think or talk about death. Death, especially in American culture, is something that's really swept under the rug, so honestly, I don't see any headway being made for euthanasia by any conventional means, although my suggestion that people kill themselves may be a little extreme.
Actually, euthanasia is legal here in Oregon. In fact, we were the first place in the Western world to officially legalize the practice (although Holland and Belgium have since legailized it, I think, and were openly practicing euthanasia without penalties before Oregon was).

Euthansia was legalized in (I think) 1997, and over 170 people have been killed by doctor-prescribed drugs since. Oregon legalized the practice via ballot measure. The law was then challenged in court, rewritten, and passed as a ballot measure again. In fact, it barely passed the first time, but won by a landslide the second, because Oregonians were pissed off at the meddling of the Feds. Ashcroft is still trying to mess with the law, claiming that FDA has the right to regulate drugs.

Personally, I voted against the measure, for technical reasons. I have nothing against assisted suicide, but I thought that there were some silly clauses in the law (like Doctors had to predict you had less than 90 days to live, as if they were God and could know when someone would die).

As my previous posts in this thread suggest, I think people should either be able to get assistance in committing suicide, or they should not. The "terminally ill" clause is ridiculous. Also, why involve Doctors, who would potentially be violating their hippocratic Oath?
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Actually, euthanasia is legal here in Oregon. In fact, we were the first place in the Western world to officially legalize the practice (although Holland and Belgium have since legailized it, I think, and were openly practicing euthanasia without penalties before Oregon was).

Euthansia was legalized in (I think) 1997, and over 170 people have been killed by doctor-prescribed drugs since. Oregon legalized the practice via ballot measure. The law was then challenged in court, rewritten, and passed as a ballot measure again. In fact, it barely passed the first time, but won by a landslide the second, because Oregonians were pissed off at the meddling of the Feds. Ashcroft is still trying to mess with the law, claiming that FDA has the right to regulate drugs.

Personally, I voted against the measure, for technical reasons. I have nothing against assisted suicide, but I thought that there were some silly clauses in the law (like Doctors had to predict you had less than 90 days to live, as if they were God and could know when someone would die).

As my previous posts in this thread suggest, I think people should either be able to get assistance in committing suicide, or they should not. The "terminally ill" clause is ridiculous. Also, why involve Doctors, who would potentially be violating their hippocratic Oath?
Yes, I'm aware that euthanasia is legal in Oregon, although I'm not sure about the details. Last I heard, it was in danger of being made illegal by the Supreme Court. Anyway, I'm curious how it became legal in Oregon. Was the population largely for legalizing euthanasia in the first place, or was there a concerted effort to change people's minds that worked?
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Personally, I think it's a horrible idea. I wouldn't want my child to have nightmares for the rest of her life because someone wanted to make a political statement. A quick internet search will reveal easy ways to off yourself quickly, privately and painlessly.

I think the reason why it's illegal is because it's a slippery slope situation. Life itself, is a terminal disease. So where in the life cycle do you draw the line to mark the unnatural end?
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Personally, I think it's a horrible idea. I wouldn't want my child to have nightmares for the rest of her life because someone wanted to make a political statement. A quick internet search will reveal easy ways to off yourself quickly, privately and painlessly.

I think the reason why it's illegal is because it's a slippery slope situation. Life itself, is a terminal disease. So where in the life cycle do you draw the line to mark the unnatural end?
I understand what you're saying, but how many children and adults have nightmares because they had to watch their relatives die slow, agonizing deaths? Or how many have nightmares because their relative literally blew their heads as opposed to dying peacefully. Really, what makes one less deserving of a nightmare than the other?
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