spamandham

That's because he's a member of God's Ol' Party. The whole point of storytime's hypothetical was to highlight a hypocritical double standard that would have been applied if Chelsie Clinton had been a lesbian.

bacht

This portrait seems to describe more affluent women, those who could afford servants. But your main point holds, that women who work outside the home can be Godly. They don't have to be chained to the kitchen stove.

spamandham

...then how do you keep them from escaping? :huh:

I suppose you could chain them to something else...

bacht

[deleted - borderline sexist]

storytime

Thank you Spamandham, that's exactly what I was trying to express. The double standard of hypocritical Christians also holds meaning in the saying of Jesus "judge not lest ye be judged likewise." Who can judge? Those who are not committing those same sins. But yet, this judging is confined to the churches and membership. The GOP fundamentalists want to hide their sin by grace on every occassion, and their sins not be held up to scrutiny by the world in which they are not the lest bit bashful about insulting, condemning, cursing, and damning everyone else.

Once we atheists teach the ignorant Christians that their place in the world is confined to their churches and governance of their membership only, they might actually start administrating some rules that will make them look a little more respectable to the world. Like Jesus said about hypocrisy, "unless your righteousness exceeds the hypocrisy of the Pharisees, there is no way you can enter into the kingdom of heaven."

purple_kathryn

She's a christian. She picks and chooses what part of the bible she wants to follow :huh:

storytime

As mandates enclose disciplinary measures, Palin is in violation of church protocol. She is supposed to be approached by two members of her church and if she will not listen to them, the matter of her behavior is to be brought before the entire congregation. If she then still refuses to listen and conform to church policy she is to be cast out, excommunicated. In this way of church governance, evil is not allowed to fester and influence the whole body of Christ Church. But what exactly has Palin done that is unacceptable? She entered politics of the world. Not only that, she has tolerated[supported] the evil deeds of her daughter. Her daughter has played the harlot. OT God says an illegitimate son or daughter cannot enter into the sanctuary of the Lord. And if Jesus didn't change the rules, then the rule is still valid.

I'm surprised that Focus on the Family hasn't openly drawn and quartered Palin because of her undisciplined behavior.

btw, God commanded that unruly children be stoned to death by their parents and if the parents refused, the community was to take up stones to kill both the unruly children and their tolerant parents. Now if Palin says something like, 'we need to get back to the bible', in her family values politics, then someone should point out to her just what she's in for as punishment from the God she worships. I would imagine that stoning is a terribly painful execution process. But hey, if she's guilty, she's guilty.

arnoldo

NO.

bacht

yep, an old problem, starting with Paul (Torah unnecessary for gentiles) - and there is also the question of which non-scriptural church traditions one should follow (Catholic? Byzantine? Lutheran? Calvinist? Wesleyan?)

storytime

You may have a point there. Isn't Deborah the revenger of offense? She drove a spike through the head of a sleeping king? Now, if Palin is imagining herself as president, well, I wouldn't advise McManiac taking a nap. :devil1: