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Old 04-28-2006, 05:39 AM   #11
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Hmm... I'm not sure this is a non-sequitur. Saying they are pure legend doesn't mean they cannot be true - only that they cannot be historically verified.
Fair enough. I was thinking in terms of legend (and myth, and so on) as 'made-up cobblers'. My old Greek Myth course lecturer will be turning in his grave if he's dead. :banghead: In mitigation, it was -- -- twenty years ago...
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definitely omri, 'bout 870 bce
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The answer is obvious.

The earliest name in the Bible that we can say with reasonable probability is a real person is Elohim.

This name is found in Genesis 1:1.


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You know that Elohim is a plural, yes?
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definitely omri, 'bout 870 bce
Evidence and reasoning please -- for all the ones people have listed. You'll gather I'm outside my usual area (these days at least), so I'd like to collect a few facts . I guess the question can be refined to, first person for whom there is extra-Biblical corroborative evidence -- otherwise DfT might be right .
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Well, dear BC&H folks: who is the earliest name in the babble we can say with reasonable probability was a real person?

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You know that Elohim is a plural, yes?
Well the earliest name is "Elohim" - it's plural in form, but in Gen 1:1 it behaves singularly (taking verbs in singular).

But was Elohim a real person?

The evidence for David is the Tel Dan Stela, which mention a "bytdwd", whatever that is. "House of David" would be "byt dwd", so why only one word?


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The talking donkey is without a doubt the most historically accurate person in the bible.
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The talking donkey is without a doubt the most historically accurate person in the bible.
What about the talking snake?
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The talking donkey is without a doubt the most historically accurate person in the bible.
Did the talking donkey go around with a green ogre? And sing songs?

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You know that Elohim is a plural, yes?
You know that you referred to plural as a singular, yes? ("a" plural)




Freezbee is correct. Elohim functions as a singular throughout the narrative in Genesis. However, in Genesis 1:26, He says "let us make man in our image".

Some people think of it as the "Royal we"... Christians see it as the Holy Trinity.
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