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SwoleMan · 10-30-2005, 04:38 PM

At last I've started reading up on evolution and the evolution-creation controversy "for real"! I've just read (and re-read) Douglas Theobald's "29 + Evidences for Macroevolution" and am currently reading the debate over this essay held between Theobald and creationist Ashby Camp. I have a simple question: is this as strong as the case for creation gets? Because even though I may be a bit biased, I really can't see how Mr. Camp is not being handed his own ass on a golden plate not only once, but on essentialy every point they're arguing.

buckshot23 · 10-30-2005, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Andreas83

At last I've started reading up on evolution and the evolution-creation controversy "for real"! I've just read (and re-read) Douglas Theobald's "29 + Evidences for Macroevolution" and am currently reading the debate over this essay held between Theobald and creationist Ashby Camp. I have a simple question: is this as strong as the case for creation gets? Because even though I may be a bit biased, I really can't see how Mr. Camp is not being handed his own ass on a golden plate not only once, but on essentialy every point they're arguing.

Camp is only a lawyer I believe. Where are you reading the debate by the way?

SwoleMan · 10-30-2005, 04:47 PM

I'm reading on both talk origins and true origins.

buckshot23 · 10-30-2005, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Andreas83

I have a simple question: is this as strong as the case for creation gets?

I don't think Camp is making a case for creation.

SwoleMan · 10-30-2005, 04:58 PM

Hmm, yeah, maybe it's more of a case against evolution. But he does explicitly argue for creation in some places.

10-30-2005, 04:38 PM	#1
SwoleMan Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,190	"29 + Evidences for Macroevolution and a seemingly very confused creationist" At last I've started reading up on evolution and the evolution-creation controversy "for real"! I've just read (and re-read) Douglas Theobald's "29 + Evidences for Macroevolution" and am currently reading the debate over this essay held between Theobald and creationist Ashby Camp. I have a simple question: is this as strong as the case for creation gets? Because even though I may be a bit biased, I really can't see how Mr. Camp is not being handed his own ass on a golden plate not only once, but on essentialy every point they're arguing.

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10-30-2005, 04:47 PM	#3
SwoleMan Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,190	I'm reading on both talk origins and true origins.

10-30-2005, 04:58 PM	#5
SwoleMan Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,190	Hmm, yeah, maybe it's more of a case against evolution. But he does explicitly argue for creation in some places.

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