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sotto voce · 07-06-2012, 05:16 AM

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There were various permutations of antichrist belief, that started to emerge even before the end of the ministry of the apostles, and are still being devised now.

Did the ministry of the apostles involve casting lots to determine which apostle would convert which nation, as many of the non canonical texts state?

What????? The imperial magisterium allowed for happenstance? Good gods!

Have a look at

Just answer the question. There cannot be two mutually exclusive models of reality.

Do the canonical books and non canonical books of the new testament represent two mutually exclusive models of reality about Jesus and the Apostolic Boneheads?

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You're in the Roman Army now.

Time to take the sacraments eh.

For the vanquished.

Sheshbazzar · 07-06-2012, 01:12 PM

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<snip> ......if this guy J_S, had actually been anointed by the folks of Jerusalem. But, no. He was not anointed, according to the story line, instead, he was butchered by them. ..........

..........the so called "christ" figure, to whom you refer, was NEVER anointed by anyone, but rather, was spit upon, in derision,

True. But then Scripture does not say; 'your anointed, or 'their anointed', but rather 'MINE anointed' and 'HIS anointed'.

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'J_S', at least based on the gospels, was never anointed by anyone, human.

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Certainly, J_S NEVER served as "savior" to the jewish people,.......

There have been many Jewish people who have believed, and went to their graves believing otherwise, both within the writings, and without the writings.

'J_S' is an active and ever present Deliverer of ALL that believe and call upon His Name, of the Jew first, and also to those among the Nations.

I did not repeat the common 'worldly' name, because that 'common name' is not that Name in which His deliverance -'imalate' becomes manifest;
le'ha'bedial; 'placing a distinction between...'

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