Ierrellus

FoC,
Welcome!

A follower of Christ is a doer of Christ. Is your Christ the Pauline/Augustinian caricature or the Sermon on the Mount prophet? Will you quote from James?

Ierrellus

Follower of Christ

My Christ is both.

Something folks dont understand is Jesus came Himself to the JEW.
He came to them first to preach to them to be rejected.
He was dealling with their customs
He was to be rejected, so the Jews as a whole were to remain blinded to the truth.

When Paul came onto the scene, altho he did try to save his hebrew brothers, the main thrust of his ministry was to the gentile.
A whole different ballgame.
Paul didnt beat around the proverbial bush as Jesus did with the parables.

the parables and the manner in which Jesus taught the masses wasnt for the reason most seem to think.
Most seem to think the parables were to teach and make more clear, to the Jews, the things of God.
This isnt the case.
Jesus said this.

It wasnt given to the masses to understand.
When you read Jesus' words, its important to remember His mission and take into account what had to be done to or orchestrate His crucfixion.

Paul on the other hand was free just to spit it out.
His mission was to go to the gentile nations and there was no prophecy hindering his path.

Its not a different Christ at all.
Paul was able to clarify to the gentile that which Jesus didnt reveal for the most part to the Jew.

Ierrellus

FoC,

You have made your choice. Apparently, you choose Pauline pettiness* over Sermon on the Mount value or Jamesian universality.

*1. homosexuality is unnatural, abomination
2. women have no place as leaders in the Church
3. those who do not work should not eat
4. it's a shame for men to have long hair
5. slaves honor your masters

etc., etc.etc.
Only the 13th chapter of Corinthians says anything universally moral. If your beliefs are to be accepted, they cannot be exclusive.

"The devil can quote Scriptue for his purposes."--Shakespeare. If you can do no more than quote and divide, i cannot see you as a follower of any universal God.

Ierrellus

Follower of Christ

thanks for telling me what I believe

To bad theres no way you could even begin to understand what I do actaully beleive.

If you ever want to drop your little titles and learn about Christ and Christianity tho, let me know.

Chris Weimer

One word of caution, young friend, although you may extol what you believe to an extent, spamming is not allowed, and trying to preach to others may be asking for censorship by us (not moderation, but we the people).

Ok though, since you're going on and on, Faith alone or with Works?

Ierrellus

FoC,

I apologize if I have second-guessed your beliefs, but you continue to express text-book theology and your ability to quote. What else am I to go on?

Ierrellus

dmarker

FOC,

Wasn't Christ a Jew himself?

TomboyMom

...blah blah blah

How about if you preface this kind of statement with "according to the bible," or something. You forget that here at II, most of us don't believe any of this happened! It's about like asserting that Hamlet actually was gay or whatever. If you want to assert this kind of thing as a fact, you would need to come up with some source other than the Christian holy book, and then defend it. You see, we don't believe that something is true, just because it is stated in the Bible, the Koran, etc.

Rene

funinspace

Nah, he was Nephilim, a mongrel god/human.... ok, sooorry carry on...

Heathen Dawn

Yet another “True vs False Christian™” battle, interesting…