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Old 02-28-2005, 08:11 PM   #21
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Joel:

Several times you repeated the insult that I do not know anything about ancient chronology.

Insults = inability to refute.

BTW:

I didn't make an argument.

I stated my source and what I believe he supports.

I said the LXX and the MT use different systems that when understood both are correct.

In response, you typed a semi-flame.

What is wrong with you ?

Joel:

Do you want a debate ?

How about we debate the validity of the O.T. chronology ?

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Old 02-28-2005, 08:43 PM   #22
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It was not an insult Willow, it was a conclusion based on your inability to put forward any sort of argument other than "Rutherford [who?] said so, and Rutherford was a clever, clever man." But let's see the argument. You explain how you synchronise the LXX, SP, MT, Jubilees, and Maccabean chronologies, and, depending on how long it takes me to get off the floor from all the laughing, I'll tell you why you're wrong.

Joel

(And to the rest of the BC&H lot, please don't clue him in on "SP" as I doubt he knows what that is)
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Old 02-28-2005, 08:52 PM   #23
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I would like to zoom in on this one bit:
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Umm, if the Biblical Flood happened, who would have been left to record all those various "flood accounts"?
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Post Flood peoples - obviously.
So if everybody not on the Ark was drowned, who might have recorded these other flood accounts around the world which supposedly corroborate the global flood, considering there were no survivors not on the Ark, according to the canonical tale? After all, dead men tell no tales.

Noah & crew's descendants? But wouldn't their tales be clones of Noah's tale? And yet this is not the case.
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Old 03-01-2005, 07:09 AM   #24
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Joel: Several times you repeated the insult that I do not know anything about ancient chronology.

Insults = inability to refute.
I agree. You need only demonstrate that this was an unwarranted insult rather than a well founded observation to gain my support in the matter. I, for one, would love to learn the transforms that bring those chronologies into alignment. Perhaps they would explain 2 million Israelites, led by God and having just defeated mighty Egypt, maneuvering to avoid a bunch of Philistines in 1453 BCE.
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Old 03-01-2005, 11:33 AM   #25
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I truly appreciate your serious response.

It will take me until Friday at the latest to type a worthy response.

Due to schedule my posting days are Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
All posts in other topics do not require the effort this will take.

Maybe an Admin can chop this off and create a special topic.

Maybe your friend Celsus will also stick around as history is my major.

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No problem, slow is fine. Heck, Celsus and I hardly bump into each other around here at all. I'm not trying to pick on you specifically, but using words like irrefutable, ignorant, et.al. generally don't help a debate/conversation (for either side), and doesn't really add to the quality of an argument. And it tends to invite equally hostile/derisive counter statements, much like the sarcasm (my warts) I used to use around here allot. Just a thought...
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Willow Tree,

Would you care to explain why you think you were banned from EvC?

Let me quote from the Administrator:

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WillowTree's permanent banning, and the banning of all likeminded benighted souls, will stand. EvC Forum will not be playing host to nonsense discussions. (See last message here.)
What do you think the Administrator meant by nonsense discussions, especially when he makes it clear that it "is important because EvC Forum has a vested interest in not only being fair, but also of appearing fair"?

Aren't you passing off your inabilities in partaking in meaningful discussion onto other people? Do you think that with your track record of apparent incoherence anyone would think of wasting their time engaging you in what you euphemistically call a debate?


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Old 03-01-2005, 06:32 PM   #27
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(And to the rest of the BC&H lot, please don't clue him in on "SP" as I doubt he knows what that is)
I gave Joel a compliment/apology and yet he remains implacably angry.

The SP has has about 1500 deviations from the MT.

The SP and the LXX have a fraction of that amount.

This means the much older LXX is corroborated by the SP which exposes Rashi and his gang of revisionists to be deliberately translating the MT to evade Messianic Christology.

Joel:

Your insults are embarrassing to your known calm approach.

Also, insults are rage-based caused by inability to refute.

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I agree. You need only demonstrate that this was an unwarranted insult rather than a well founded observation to gain my support in the matter. I, for one, would love to learn the transforms that bring those chronologies into alignment. Perhaps they would explain 2 million Israelites, led by God and having just defeated mighty Egypt, maneuvering to avoid a bunch of Philistines in 1453 BCE.
Hi CA:

I am not sure what you are on to here.

Care to elaborate ?

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Old 03-01-2005, 06:52 PM   #29
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WT, I hope you aren't confusing Rav Ashi with Rashi. Different people, different times, different places.
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Willow Tree,

Would you care to explain why you think you were banned from EvC?
First let me say Percy has more tolerance and a true open mind than ANYONE on the Internet - especially christians. Christian Forums are the worst.

Percy NEVER deletes content. (excluding porno pics from trolls etc.etc.)

EvC is a superior Forum because they are not afraid to let opposing viewpoints post.

Why was I banned ?

Nothing can silence this:

They are atheists.

I am a theist.

I refused to address the opposing LLM topic refutation BECAUSE they refused to recognize the Great Pyramid height evidence as proof that the GP was 5449 PI" tall.

I was banned because of the LLM topic.

The actual straw had nothing to do with the LLM but was about Dating stuff that was heatedly debated.

Via email I offered EvC to concede the LLM issue.

EvC declined.

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Aren't you passing off your inabilities in partaking in meaningful discussion onto other people?
Insult packaged as fact.

The fact that you are an atheist and I am a militant theist explains your derogatory comment as predictible.

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Do you think that with your track record of apparent incoherence anyone would think of wasting their time engaging you in what you euphemistically call a debate?
I could make the same insult about you and the fact that I am a theist explains it.

All you do Spin is assert many insults and rely on persons who agree with you to go along with the implication that I have been refuted, yet no refutation has taken place.

IOW, all you do is insult contrary to what anyone can scroll back and read.

If what you say is true then why are you involved in this topic crafted just for me ?

Lets debate and stop the ad homs ?

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