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No, but being a christian is denial and that is mental whether outright or with blind faith. This really becomes an illness with the degree of the denial. No one here is saying being a christian is insanity.
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I have to say, I'm not keen on your attitude towards mental health problems. Why does one have to be in denial to believe in God? What am I denying? I could say you are in denial because you don't believe (I won't, but it could be argued). |
What attitude? I have a degree of mental problems myself. Maybe not denial then, but at least using selective reading, as you display in your response to my post. Where am I saying belief in god is denial? There is no real evidence for or against a god. I am saying being a christian is denial.
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Who are you to tell me what to call my beliefs? Do you even know what I believe, short of the very little I've shared?
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One reading and responding to what you are writing. I don't need to know your whole belief system.
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You sound just like my old fundie buddies.
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Yes, I hear this a lot.
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Who gets to define who a Christian is?
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The christian manual, the NT. Just as the qu'ran defines who a muslim is. It is called communication. You are allowed to create for yourself as you wish though, but that doesn't have to work so well for proper communication.
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Maybe I should start arguing back that you aren't a proper atheist, shall I?
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I am not an atheist. I have no beliefs and atheists are allowed beliefs.
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I do have a friend who reckons the only true atheists are those who don't care one jot about religion and that people on this site "obviously" aren't true atheists because they keep arguing about it (he says): "Methinks the lady doth protest too much" and all that.
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Yes, one could believe that.
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I appreciate that you intend to show respect by being honest, but very up with supposed good intentions.
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Well you are right if it is a one-sided honesty. One has to remain honest with themselves as well as they do with others to be consistent.
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As in "I'm only telling you this [insert nasty comment] because you are a sister in Christ" (a good one from my old fundie days - nothing like a big dollop of insincerity to make the bitchiness go down).
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Would you call the word "fundie" as a respectful term?
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I try to show respect by showing that I appreciate different points of view, that I acknowledge we don't all see the world in the same way. I would never, ever suggest someone's sincere beliefs were "mental".
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I respect people's opinion and of course I have no problem with them. Right and wrong should not be counted in as opinion though in order to have proper respect and commnication.
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I hold to the saying "Always think it possible that you may be mistaken".
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I have to live like that because I make plenty of mistakes, so I don't exactly want to leave myself vulnerable.
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