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Old 07-09-2007, 06:44 PM   #1
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"One of the most frightening things in the Western world, and in this country in particular, is the number of people who believe in things that are scientifically false. If someone tells me that the earth is less than 10,000 years old, in my opinion he should see a psychiatrist."

Francis Crick, 1962
Here we have the paradigm of the white-coated corporate fascist who desires that those who have a different perspective be given audience with similarly white-coated autocrats who will adjust their beliefs under threat of being lockep up in a place where they will be force fed poisons and hooked up to electrocution machines! The universe does not exist only through the eyes of Darwin!
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Here we have the paradigm of the white-coated corporate fascist who desires that those who have a different perspective be given audience with similarly white-coated autocrats who will adjust their beliefs under threat of being lockep up in a place where they will be force fed poisons and hooked up to electrocution machines! The universe does not exist only through the eyes of Darwin!
So you equate seeing a psychiatrist with being electrocuted. Hmm. And you have what kind of credibility to be discussing matters of scientific discourse?
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I DO NOT HAVE A METRIC, JETBLACK, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE DNA LANGUAGE.
(And, compared to everything there is to know about the DNA language, even geneticists probably know it very little also)

However, just because I do not know the language, does not mean that I cannot infer that some genomes must have higher information content than others. It does not require the knowledge of a rigorous, mathematical information metric to realize that a human has more protein types, more cell types, more organs, more biological structure and more specialized functions than, for example, a bacterium, to pick two widely differing organisms.

The bacterium simply does not have many things that a human does, and as far as we know, cannot ever obtain any of those needed new proteins, cell types, etc. by any process which we are aware of.

Note that I am not observing the language itself, that is, the A's, G's, T's, and C's to arrive at this inference. I am observing the manufactured products coded for by the language, that is, the organism itself. Remember what an organism is. It is a supremely high tech, self-replicating, self-feeding, self-maintaining automaton ... manufactured precisely according to a code, assembled from the same raw materials (that is atoms from the periodic chart with which we are all familiar) as any robot performing on the assembly line at Toyota. This fact by itself should instantly cause you to realize intuitively that organisms could never have designed themselves. They require a Designer, just like the man made automatons require one. That you do not realize this immediately is a testament to the mind numbing power of the Darwinian paradigm.
Those who construct the universe on Non-Darwinian, non-capitalistic templates will always be misunderstood. The white-coated corporate animal torturers in labs were led by their paradigm to conclude the phenomenon they call AIDS was caused by a living part of nature called a virus. What led them to ignore the role of dead pollutants that belch from capitalist factories, power plants, and other life-destroying wounds on the face of Gaia.

This conclusion enables them to make billions more by selling us more poison from their factories as well as rubber straps that interfere with the course of true love. All of this exists in order to "help fix the problem" or some other such rot. Look around round, intuition says otherwise!
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Those who construct the universe on Non-Darwinian, non-capitalistic templates will always be misunderstood. The white-coated corporate animal torturers in labs were led by their paradigm to conclude the phenomenon they call AIDS was caused by a living part of nature called a virus. What led them to ignore the role of dead pollutants that belch from capitalist factories, power plants, and other life-destroying wounds on the face of Gaia.

This conclusion enables them to make billions more by selling us more poison from their factories as well as rubber straps that interfere with the course of true love.* All of this exists in order to "help fix the problem" or some other such rot. Look around round, intuition says otherwise!
I call Loki Troll!

* "The rose goes in the front, big guy."

Bonus points if you can identify the speaker and movie (without Googling, of course)
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It's tough to tell the type of "Garblebot" that is AshtarothYacq.

Maybe it exists prior to the Tower of Babel. In which case take your comments hence to the proper thread.
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The white-coated corporate animal torturers in labs were led by their paradigm to conclude the phenomenon they call AIDS was caused by a living part of nature called a virus. What led them to ignore the role of dead pollutants that belch from capitalist factories, power plants, and other life-destroying wounds on the face of Gaia.
The complete lack of evidence that they play a role in AIDS.

Pollutants play a role in asthma, many forms of cancer, and many other diseases, but AIDS isn't one of them.
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Here we have the paradigm of the white-coated corporate fascist who desires that those who have a different perspective be given audience with similarly white-coated autocrats who will adjust their beliefs under threat of being locked up in a place where they will be force fed poisons and hooked up to electrocution machines! The universe does not exist only through the eyes of Darwin!
So you equate seeing a psychiatrist with being electrocuted. Hmm. And you have what kind of credibility to be discussing matters of scientific discourse?
You really don't have a clue, do you? The white-coated pinheads love to subject those under their supervision to these low power electric chairs in order to get them "in compliance" when they act "inappropriately." It's amazing the lengths our scientistic, corporate autocracy will go to impose its arbitrary conception of "normality" on those who construct the universe differently.
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So you equate seeing a psychiatrist with being electrocuted. Hmm. And you have what kind of credibility to be discussing matters of scientific discourse?
You really don't have a clue, do you? The white-coated pinheads love to subject those under their supervision to these low power electric chairs in order to get them "in compliance" when they act "inappropriately." It's amazing the lengths our scientistic, corporate autocracy will go to impose its arbitrary conception of "normality" on those who construct the universe differently.
Speaking as a practicing psychiatrist, I can only say that your ignorance of both the science and the profession is profound.
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You really don't have a clue, do you? The white-coated pinheads love to subject those under their supervision to these low power electric chairs in order to get them "in compliance" when they act "inappropriately." It's amazing the lengths our scientistic, corporate autocracy will go to impose its arbitrary conception of "normality" on those who construct the universe differently.
C'mon Ashhat, don't be a tease. Forget the electric chairs and tell us more about those tantalizing rubber straps. :grin:
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So you equate seeing a psychiatrist with being electrocuted. Hmm. And you have what kind of credibility to be discussing matters of scientific discourse?
You really don't have a clue, do you? The white-coated pinheads love to subject those under their supervision to these low power electric chairs in order to get them "in compliance" when they act "inappropriately." It's amazing the lengths our scientistic, corporate autocracy will go to impose its arbitrary conception of "normality" on those who construct the universe differently.
Actually, it's pretty clear who has a clue and who doesn't. Do you have the tiniest scrap of evidence that Crick meant YECs should be subjected to electro-shock therapy?

And let me ask you this: do you believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old? Do you need psychiatric help?

I don't expect an honest answer to the second question, so you don't need to answer it.
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