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Old 01-24-2008, 11:14 AM   #71
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Matthew 10:5 (RSV): "These twelve Jesus sent out, charging them, 'Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans,"
Yeah, He said that when He was still on the earth. After he ascended into Heaven he told the disciples to go to Jerusalem and wait for the Holy Spirit to descend upon them and go out to the nations. Obviously this has happened since Christianity exists this very moment. The book of daniel prophesiese that when Yeshua returns he will be like a stone ( The stone that smites the image and breaks it in pieces, and that filled the whole earth, is Christ, who comes from heaven and brings judgment on the world.) that will overthrow the Revised Roman Empire(The toes of clay and iron are the ten horns which are to be}. Is Europe currently in the process of forming a common government, common currency,etc? Where was the Roman Empire located?
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Josephus also understood that Daniel's prophecy was ,in part, for the very distant future.

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Professor Wilson wrote, "I have come to the conviction that no man knows enough to attack the veracity of the Old Testament. Every time when anyone has been able to get together enough documentary 'proofs' to undertake an investigation, the biblical facts in the original text have victoriously met the test" (quoted in R. Pache, The Inspiration and Authority of Scripture (or via: amazon.co.uk)).
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Professor Wilson wrote, "I have come to the conviction that no man knows enough to attack the veracity of the Old Testament. Every time when anyone has been able to get together enough documentary 'proofs' to undertake an investigation, the biblical facts in the original text have victoriously met the test" (quoted in R. Pache, The Inspiration and Authority of Scripture (or via: amazon.co.uk)).
This quote does tend to discredit Wilson, does it not? But then he was writing in 1917, before archeologists and geologists had discredited vast parts of the Bible.
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Professor Wilson wrote, "I have come to the conviction that no man knows enough to attack the veracity of the Old Testament. Every time when anyone has been able to get together enough documentary 'proofs' to undertake an investigation, the biblical facts in the original text have victoriously met the test" (quoted in R. Pache, The Inspiration and Authority of Scripture (or via: amazon.co.uk)).
This quote does tend to discredit Wilson, does it not? But then he was writing in 1917, before archeologists and geologists had discredited vast parts of the Bible.
So if archeologist and geologist have discredited vast parts of the Bible then why discuss the issue at all?
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So if archeologist and geologist have discredited vast parts of the Bible then why discuss the issue at all?
Because there is more to the Bible than naive literalism.

And there are people like you who continue to believe in a naive literalistic interpretation of the Bible, and some of you vote.
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So if archeologist and geologist have discredited vast parts of the Bible then why discuss the issue at all?
Perhaps to educate those still ignorant of this and to counter the efforts of those who refuse to accept it?
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So if archeologist and geologist have discredited vast parts of the Bible then why discuss the issue at all?
Perhaps to educate those still ignorant of this and to counter the efforts of those who refuse to accept it?
From a geological standpoint I think it's ignorant to think that all "fundies' think the world is only six thousand years old. There are many Christian geologist who don't believe in a "young earth". As far as archeology is concerned what part of the bible has been discredited? I'm willing to be educated.
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Perhaps to educate those still ignorant of this and to counter the efforts of those who refuse to accept it?
From a geological standpoint I think it's ignorant to think that all "fundies' think the world is only six thousand years old. There are many Christian geologist who don't believe in a "young earth". As far as archeology is concerned what part of the bible has been discredited? I'm willing to be educated.
First of all, that's not a geological standpoint. That's a Christian viewpoint. Secondly, though not all "fundies" believe in a young earth, many do. In fact, half the American population does not believe in evolution. Finally, the world was not created in six days, Jesus Christ was not born of a virgin, and the Jews were not led by Moses out of Egypt to conquer Canaan under Joshua.
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From a geological standpoint I think it's ignorant to think that all "fundies' think the world is only six thousand years old. There are many Christian geologist who don't believe in a "young earth". As far as archeology is concerned what part of the bible has been discredited? I'm willing to be educated.
First of all, that's not a geological standpoint. That's a Christian viewpoint.
You are mistaken, figurative language is used all throughout the bible. A day could mean 24hrs or and "age" depending on its context.
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Secondly, though not all "fundies" believe in a young earth, many do
. I've studied graduate level research, I'm sure you have statistical data and sources to back up your claims.
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In fact, half the American population does not believe in evolution.
And the other half do believe in it, right? What's your point?
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Finally, the world was not created in six days
Not literal six 24 hrs days.
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Jesus Christ was not born of a virgin
Yeah, he would have to be God for that to happen. . .
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, and the Jews were not led by Moses out of Egypt to conquer Canaan under Joshua
I'm looking forward for you "archaelogical proof" of this or at least a link that verifies you claims.
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