Light

God doesn't think so.

Donnmathan

Odd, the Federal Government does.

anti-X

Mr. Otis et alia

The problem is "Who is gawd".

The God of Noah, like for Jews, Muslims and a few Christians.

"Jesus is..." gawd for some people. That ol' "gawd on Earth" theme which is 2,000 years old.

Hindu in which the themes, despite the avatars and all, each individual is their own "gawd"

Buddhists where there isn't a particular gawd and is a philosophy with superstitions mixed into it.

Or how about ancient Rome. The "purpose" of gawds there were "to interpet" the Fates and the Furies to men.
Things like the oracles were part of this. In otherwords, their gawds didn't really run anything, the Fates and Furies did!

Then you have people's choices of "saints", angels", demons" or the "son of gawd" Evil-gelicals (Bable say, Satan says:"son of gawd").

Or you can have the mountain gawds of Shinto and Native American superstitions.

And after all of that, you have peoples individual choices of what each "means to them".

Now, Here is a good example of "WHY" mandating a state religion is so Dangerous:
Do you think "baptism" should be done at infancy or later when the individual makes their own "choice"?
So you have 4 choices:

1) At Infancy

2) At an age of cognitive awareness (usually was said to be 12 or 14 depending on which church)

3) Don't know.

4) Don't give a damn.

Now when this question came to the 'fore in history, mixed in with the politics of that Time, it killed 1 out of every 4 people in Europe. It was called the Thirty Years War.

The US Civil War started over something as emotive as "States Rights". And now someone, or anyone, wants to shove some filthy looking, cross-dressing, witchdoctor in coloured glass down the throats of others? That is criminal and murderous!

Doctor X

Best not to trust those voices in the head. . . .

I am appalled that we have stray'd--yay--waver'd from the LAWS demanded by YHWH in Exodus from which the Decalogue comes from!

Who are we to determine which of these many laws we should follow?

Does Exodus grant us "cafeteria priveledges" where we can "pick and choose?" No sir!

Thus, bring back CHILD SACRIFICE!!

--J.D.

Light

More uncivilised clap-trap from you. What sort of barbarian are you?

What happened before the 10 Commandments? People lived in peace and respected each other I suppose? Does it look like it, even today?

What the hell have you idle bastards been doing these last 2004 years, having a good time?

Christ did not have a religion. He could see then that you are a clueless bunch of apes who could not organise social order if you had another 2000 years with your evil double-dealing and your pornographic priests and their hole worship.

Fill the bloody hole with water and STOP wasting my time you ruddy dunce.

A plethora of churches for one God and ALL of them utterly useless. On their ruddy knees praying ... for what the second coming, before they do anything about improving the amenity of the planet, regulating the numbers of children being born stop dealing in child sacrifice, stop killing the first born, turn swords into ploughshares, sow and reap, fishes and loaves?

"Thou shalt not kill" is this too difficult for your feeble brain to understand?

How is it you have managed to turn the entire thing into a perverted inversion of the Truth?

What is all of this pornograhpy doing here? How come half the population is queer? What is the sexual abuse about? What is this drivel about poor man's holiness?

What are "priests" doing blessing brothels?

Why is the crime rate so high?

What is anyone paying YOU for?

Why are YOU stealing from the people?

By Whose Authority?

God?

Buffman

Light

Absolute believer in One Supreme Being.

Which one?

Light

Logic dictates that there can be only One.

Two beings cannot be Supreme God at the same time.

The God we normally refer to is known as Almighty God but is known by a variety of names by different people.

He is known as Ptah to the Egyptians, Heavenly Father, Al 'Illah, El Shaddaï, The Great Spirit.

God Creator and God Redeemer. The Alpha & Omega.

He Who Created matter and, in so doing, also Created life, in order for men & women to come to know Him and to be ... like ... Him.

His two countenances are Angry & Pleased, RA & RE.

In all of this time I can find only one "failing", "jealousy". He is "jealous" or eager to have your love for Him and your love for each other, for His sake, and to please Him.

Not a failing at all really, just normal, like all Fathers everywhere.

Somehow I feel that churches ruin this relationship, especially with so much sectarianism.

Being Universal, then God has only need of one equally Universal belief system.

This can BETTER be based in science than in any amount of religious ritual, is my personal understanding.

Science is clearer, as there is no veiled mystery and nothing is "occult" or hidden.

Certainly there is no ambiguity with people saying one thing whilst meaning another.

That this DOES exist can only be described as being evil of purpose and therefore untruthful in that it is also dishonest.

We place a very high measure on Truth. It is most often spoken by children in a simple way.

Less often by adults who think there is something to be gained by being deceitful.

A VERY difficult thing to Judge, but NOT impossible.

Light

What is this inversion of the "Wisdom of Solomon" and this misconstruction of divide and rule?

Originally, King Solomon is said to have been presented with a case where two women both claimed that a certain baby belonged to each of them.

As they both stood by their claim, one crying, smiling craftily, King Solomon declared that He would cut the child in two and give each of the women one half as there was no other way of deciding.

Immediately one woman cried out No, No, give that woman the child, whereupon King Solomon said, "In that case you MUST be the real Mother, for only you are concerned that the child should live." and gave the child to its rightful mother. The false mother was thus revealed.

Beware those who are false and who only want to steal from you. Similarly by dividing the spoils of Christ(ians) between them those false gods give their game away. They use the Dividers and Rule of Masonic Truthfulness, uprightness, and "navigation" (Finding the Way) towards God, deceitfully, dividing peoples everywhere, in order to rule over them.

It seems that there are quite a few who protest their "innocence" whilst stealing from others in a covetous way which smacks of cupidity, (avarice).

Greedy for the lands of others and unwise, totally unlike King Solomon in every way.

Their satanic deceipt is clear for all to see. They WANT what YOU have got and worked to build and organised by YOUR hard work for they have no lands of their own.

Nor has anyone ever had the sense to give them some.

More fools you. They want to pick a pocket or two.

No wonder Christ's garment had no pockets then.

Doctor X

Seemed to have scored a touch. . . .

Argumentum ad hominem designed to cover the fact the individual does not know the literature he spouts. I merely quote it. That he does not like what it actually says remains his problem. That he cannot debate the literature remains his error.

Non sequitur. Incidentally, since--according to Friedman--the J author dates roughly between 848 and 722 BCE and the E author dates between 922 and 722--though he argues for ~740s BCE--"before" and "after" the "ten commandments" proved most unpeaceful.

Howl howl howl argumentum ad hominem rant rave injur'd merit whine whimper sputter howl rightful heir to the throne execrate blather howl howl bowl of porridge. . . .

none of which addresses the texts and proves quite wrong if one actually addresses the texts.

If an unkind man I would be forced to conclude that his inability to grasp the demand for child sacrifice in the texts which--incidentally--appear subsequent to his "commandments" suggests something quite feeble concerning his faculties and grasp on reality.

Fortunately, I am not an unkind man. . . .

Apparently "Truth" signifies his fantasies.

More howl and bluster which, for some reason, involves pornography. Since I am not an unkind man I will not speculate upon his fascination with pornography.

Will note, en passant, that his attempts to equate distinct dieties further demonstrates an irresponsible familiarity with the actual texts.

Next. . . .

--J.D.

Light

Next. On to the PRACTICAL application involved in successfully running the planet (self-) sustainably for all of its given inhabitants at any one time.

If anyone can find that in any scripture they must let me know.

NOTHING to do with "running the economy", just in case anyone reading this is stupid.

Should have produced a "How to run a Planet like a Ship" instruction book really.

They all replied, "I suppose so."

Off to see three wise Chief Lemmings to ask their considered opinion and see if all three can come to the same one at the same time.

Let us hope that none are "incensed".

Note: The Fourth is Wise already. He says nothing. The Hallmark of true Wisdom.