stephan huller

Why would an adoption rite associated with the name Jesus have formed around an individual who was already named Jesus? Remember the original formula must have featured someone with another name was 'baptized into Jesus' or 'the name (which was understood to be Jesus).' That is why the heretics dating down to the modern Islamic pseudepigrapha are inevitably adoptionalist in some form or other.

Tenorikuma

Philippians 2 should make it obvious that if there was a Jesus, he wasn't known by that name until his ascension.

outhouse

I have toyed with the idea about his name adopted from biblical Joshua and attributed at some point.

You also have a name that breaks down to Yahweh saves.



BUT, I dont see the evidence of a change. [not that we could] If it wasnt such a common name you might have a better point.


I also find the early church fathers to late in the game to be used for any part of a HJ, as well, later gnostic influences, for me, only show the wide diversity of belief. I dont think one should focus on single sects for a foundation.

mountainman

Jesus in the Greek NT and Joshua in the LXX share the same Greek nomina sacra.


Others have toyed with name adoptions from the Greek story of Jason.

Jesus, Joshua and Jason all apparently had twelve followers.

outhouse

But we know Jesus mythology has 12 because of the 12 tribes.


Reality is if a man existed, he had 3-4 tops.

stephan huller

But it is interesting that the early Christians always call him 'Savior.' The af’el participle mesha’ מישע and the Hebrew hif’il participle מושיע both mean "one who saves" or "savior", from the root ישע in both cases.

Vorkosigan

Excellent point.