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spamandham · 05-11-2007, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

Some explanation is called for.

Holy crap! larsguy is from Plano? He's in my backyard, and apparently Riverwind's backyard as well!

:banghead:

misterjingo · 05-11-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by spamandham

Cool! Does the tomb record a census by chance, or the slaughter of innocents?

There was a cartoon character with his arm sticking out and a sign that says "You must be this tall to be killed."

spin · 05-12-2007, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by EthnAlln

There is still papyrus in Egypt. An Egyptian friend of mine recently sent me one, with a copy of a tomb painting on it.

And Josh Bernstein went to Egypt and filmed the entire process of making paper out of it. That episode was aired a few weeks ago.

Yeah, they have papyrus factories in every tourist center along the Nile.

The Isis Papyrus Factory, the Nefertiti Papyrus Palace, the the Akhenaten Papyrus Museum, the Ramses Papyrus Emporium, the Giza Papyrus Bazaar, etc.

spin

Toto · 05-30-2007, 12:51 PM

From the LA Times: King Herod's Return: How Israelis and Palestinians put their own spin on archeology to claim an ancestral homeland.

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Small wonder that archeological finds like these provoke many Palestinians to deny that such discoveries, and any other evidence of Jewish history in either Israel or the West Bank, have anything to do with Jews. After the recent announcement that Herod's tomb had been found, the Palestinian response was quick and sharp. A Palestinian official said the finding lacked scientific credibility and was driven by ideological motivations.

But this episode of archeological denial pales in comparison with the decades of denial in the case of Jerusalem's Temple Mount, which is known to Arabs as Haram al Sharif, or the Noble Sanctuary.

In 1930, when Britain administered the area, the Supreme Muslim Council in Jerusalem noted that the Temple Mount's "identity with the site of Solomon's Temple is beyond dispute." But at the Camp David summit in 2000, Yasser Arafat insisted that a Jewish temple had existed not on the Temple Mount but in Nablus. And an Arafat aide, Saeb Erekat, said, to President Clinton's amazement, "I don't believe there was a temple on top of the Haram, I really don't." Mahmoud Abbas, the current Palestinian Authority president, later agreed with Erekat, as did the mufti of Jerusalem. Arafat later went further and denied the temple existed anywhere in Israel, the West Bank or Gaza, including Nablus.

Minimalist · 05-30-2007, 02:06 PM

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Small wonder that archeological finds like these provoke many Palestinians to deny that such discoveries, and any other evidence of Jewish history in either Israel or the West Bank, have anything to do with Jews.

Technically, Herod the Great was an Arab. His father, Antipater, was Idumaean and his mother an Arabian princess. Even though the family converted they were never accepted by the Judaeans as rightful rulers.

Anyway, the site of Solomon's Temple (or, more likely Hezekiah's Temple since it is doubtful that Jerusalem in "Solomon's" time would have merited anything so grand as to be called a "temple") is in doubt. A professor by the name of Martin made a compelling case a few years ago that the original temple was located at the Gihon Spring.

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